[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Were in this generation bud.

ChubbyGuy40

In other words

You didn't state which. Plus, CoD is not the game that has sold most on consoles. Not even close.

1. Yes I have

2. Most reviewers have you think IGN, Gamespot etc dont have access to high end rigs :lol:

3. Crysis warhead one best visuals on many otherwebsites eventhough it didnt get it on GS. GOW3 won just about EVERYWHERE. Im not using GS as gods truth .

TheSterls

1. I'm just gonna say "No you haven't." I could claim I have an ultra-high end rig but theres no proof of it.

2. Actually some review websites don't. Such as a few who downranked Crysis because of that.

3. Gamespot specifically said platform, not compared to other games. Everyone knows MGS4 didn't come close to Crysis.

Im not mad at all your just cant read try reading post before you jump into the middle of the argument.

1. I dont care what you think im not gonna argue over something if i havent played the game.

2. All the big ones do. Gamespot, IGN, Gametrailers, and many more.

3. And Crysis Warhead won it on many websites the games hes mentioning are not mentioned anywhere Metro2033 and Cryostatsis? Really?

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So the PS3 is a more mainsteam gaming platform now then the PC? But the pc is the most popular platform in the world is it not? It is according to the hermits . You have 10x the install base yet you cant match it in sales? Your calling me a hypocrit? You are like a politician changing the argument when it benefits you. We have thread after thread saying pc gaming is romping console gaming in terms of profits and sales yet games dont sell as well because its not as mainstream?

And the way Crysis was marketed and talked about it should have been the Halo for pc . But it wasnt? Why was that? FPS is a genre that was born on pc it was one of the best fps at the time and it gave hermits what they wanted( exclusvie features and visuals) and it still barely breaks 3 mill?

Xtasy26

PC gaming is profitable and successful, the official figures speak for themselves. Just not by your standards, your means of measurement. That's why you cannot understand why PC is as successful as it is, because your definition of success if utterly warped.

It's the same warped means of measurement that makes you incapable of recognising Crysis was a success, just because there is another game in existence that sold more. You don't recognise success unless it meets a ever rising expectation, and your anti PC bias only makes this worse.

Easily 90% of "profitable" games would be deemed failures under these standards, both on console and PC. This sort of mentality is going to kill this industry.

His analogy is total nonsense. Crysis has to sell as well as game X, Y and Z to be deemed successful.

I could easily play that game and say UC2 is a FAILURE because it didn't match PC's WOW sales of 11+ million. That would be just :lol:.

When did I say Crysis failed? The fact you have an install base of what 10x the PS3? And one of your biggest games equals PS3 sales. This is simple math im asking what the problem is. So either

A. Not near as many people own gaming pc's as hermits make out.

B. 3rd parties cant sell as well as consoles. Hell lets look at all the multiplats which all sell more on consoles even the PS3 withonly 50 million users.

This really isnt rocket science a higher installation base equals more sells.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

It did not sell more....

cobrax55

It sold over 20 million copes and like 11 mill alone on the 360.

:lol: 11 million is WOW's subscriber base, as in the amount of people currently paying $15 a month, not its total sales. Its sales are much higher then that.

:|

You honestly think every suscriber is an individual person? Have you ever played WOW ? LMAO really dude?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"] So? It still doesn't answer the question as to why UC2 can't match WOW's 11+ million copies sold. Because by your analogy it has to sell a certain amount when compared to another game to be considered successful.

ChubbyGuy40

Did I say that? I said outside of blizzard 3rd parties coudlnt support themselves read the first post on the topic. And you wanted to take the worlds best selling pc game and its about half of the worlds best selling console game. You still lose lol.

16 million on PC alone.

Were in this generation bud.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Even with it's inconsistencies it still TRASHES GOW3 when comparing the DX 11 + TESSELATION + DOF effect of Metro 2033. GOW3 is not even in the same league.

Xtasy26

No it doesnt I dont see it having 50++ characters on screen at a time and GOW 3 won best visuals EVERYWHERE not just here on gamespot . Metro2033 is garbage you can blabber about tesselation and dof all you want if its not done well who cares. Once again only here on SW does metro 2033 get any praise . Yet I guess the entire gaming media has never played metro 2033 there all just sheltered consoleites. :roll:

Have you even played Metro 2033 in DX 11 + Tesselation? Oh wait you haven't. If Metro 2033 is garbage than what is GOW 3 then? You are saying DX 11 + tesselation doesn't make the game look getter when compared to GOW 3? LMAO. And how many of those reviewers actually played Metro 2033 maxed out in DX 11 on the PC. I bet close to none. So, it has to win an award to be the best. By golly then that must mean that Crysis Warhead looks WORSE than MGS4. LMAO.

1. Yes I have

2. Most reviewers have you think IGN, Gamespot etc dont have access to high end rigs :lol:

3. Crysis warhead one best visuals on many otherwebsites eventhough it didnt get it on GS. GOW3 won just about EVERYWHERE. Im not using GS as gods truth .

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Why didn't UC2 match WOW's 11+ million copies sold? By the way UC2 was marketed and talked about it should have been a WOW like seller on the PS3.

Xtasy26

LOL really bro? Not even close the tv commercials were few and far between they didnt have celeberties advertsing the game with every expansion pack .

Did I say that? I said outside of blizzard 3rd parties coudlnt support themselves read the first post on the topic. And you wanted to take the worlds best selling pc game and its about half of the worlds best selling console game. You still lose lol.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

lol, you think Black ops is more profitable then WOW? :lol:

cobrax55

It sold more thats a fact!!! is it more profitable? No because it doesnt have a monthly fee involoved.

It did not sell more....

It sold over 20 million copes and like 11 mill alone on the 360.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Why didn't UC2 match WOW's 11+ million copies sold?

cobrax55

There you go again right to blizzard the only 3rd party that can sell. Why didnt WOW match COD BOPS on the 360 alone???

lol, you think Black ops is more profitable then WOW? :lol:

It sold more thats a fact!!! is it more profitable? No because it doesnt have a monthly fee involved.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

You remind me of a creationist.

By that I mean, a creationist argued they will believe in evolution when they see enough transitional fossils. So you show them transitional fossils, but they say that isn't enough; and they will believe when you find enough. The creationist has a interest in maintaining their ideology, so no matter how many transitional fossils you provide, it will never be enough. Never.

It's not enough for you that a game is profitable, it has to reach 'your' standards of profitable. It doesn't matter if it sold well, it has to sell well by 'your' standards. Crysis sold 3 million copies on PC. It made enough money that Crytek could expand their company, buy up other developers, overhaul their engine; and produce another big budget game. By every measure, it was very successful.

But if it's not Uncharted 2 level successful, it's a failure, isn't it? Never mind Uncharted 2 was a sequel to a established franchise, on a mainstream gaming platform, with a 1st party backed budget and marketing campaign. A new IP that demolished the best hardware available at the time. If it doesn't sell the same, it did badly, apparently.

Cryteck set sales expectations for Crysis that were so ridiculous, that it is unlikely that Crysis 2 selling on three platforms have even reached that expectation. But that doesn't concern you, because it's another excuse to impose an unreasonable expectation, that enables you to bash PC.

As long as you elect yourself responsible for determining what is good enough from PC, it will never be good enough.

Xtasy26

So the PS3 is a more mainsteam gaming platform now then the PC? But the pc is the most popular platform in the world is it not? It is according to the hermits . You have 10x the install base yet you cant match it in sales? Your calling me a hypocrit? You are like a politician changing the argument when it benefits you. We have thread after thread saying pc gaming is romping console gaming in terms of profits and sales yet games dont sell as well because its not as mainstream?

And the way Crysis was marketed and talked about it should have been the Halo for pc . But it wasnt? Why was that? FPS is a genre that was born on pc it was one of the best fps at the time and it gave hermits what they wanted( exclusvie features and visuals) and it still barely breaks 3 mill?

Why didn't UC2 match WOW's 11+ million copies sold? By the way UC2 was marketed and talked about it should have been a WOW like seller on the PS3.

LOL really bro? Not even close the tv commercials were few and far between they didnt have celeberties advertsing the game with every expansion pack .