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#1 TheWiikestLink
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So by all means, if you would rather deny all studies from so many independent institutions, universities, and non-US influenced governments so you can find some sort of refuge in the warm-blanket-of-ignorance that NIDA or any other source like fox news provides for you... be my guest. I'm not trying to force what I say on to any of you, only providing it as-is. So by all means, if you would rather deny all studies from so many independent institutions, universities, and non-US influenced governments so you can find some sort of refuge in the warm-blanket-of-ignorance that NIDA or any other "big name legit company" provides for you... be my guest. I'm not trying to force what I say on to any of you, only providing it as-is. what you gave me is not confirmed...marijuana is a immune system system supressant is confirmed,the fact they are using marijuana that MIGHT help swine flu,is not confirmed yet either.

Theokhoth

This is why I don't like pot smokers: the attitude is too similar to conspiracy theorists for me to take seriously.

I prefer NIDA over showmethefacts.org and vague references to "independent sources, universities and non-US governments (as if the US government has some sort of massive agenda against pot)."

Kid,im talking to you like...."it is what it is"...marijuana is a plant...a plant that really has less side effects than alcohol,if any....a plant that has been proven to help our society. I dont care that you hate the plant,just hate it for the right reasons. ya dig?

http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/2005-3/issue9/ne-mj.html


found it. :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti3QAlKx10c


found another one on why weed should be legal....this guy makes too much sense.

That is really the key when it comes to marijuana... you can't be lazy if you want to learn the facts because the facts suffer from the same stigmas as the plant itself. Even the best of the best news segments I see on marijuana (vaguely promoting its benefits, yet being cautious not to take a stance that may anger viewers/sponsors) simply dance around rhetorical questions that could be answered from a google search.

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as long as there will be governments insisting that pot is bad for you, there will be pot heads insisting its good, its about as good and as bad to smoke pot all day as it is to drink all daypancreasjuice
Not all are pot heads....ron paul i dont think is a pot head and he supports the legalization of weed.... : / ron paul himself says he doesnt smoke weed...but he is one of the few that does recognize that facts that scientists have proven over the years about medical marijuana but more importantly he recognizes the facts about the failure of the war on drugs. and who says you HAVE to smoke it? smoking is so overrated.

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[QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Like a real organisation that isn't pro-pot. If only we had some sort of medical association that did scientific tests on this kind of thing.

Theokhoth

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm marijuana actually shows promise in *helping* to cut tumor growth in half there is also a article where pot acctually helps promote brain cell growth....i will post it as soon as i find it.

Goody, but that doesn't seem to show anything Swine Flu. :|

Also from ScienceDaily: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090209075631.htm

I think I'll take the swine flu.

I didn't say it idid. :|


"In the meantime, Schwartz said, "What young men should know is that first, we know very little about the long-term health consequences of marijuana smoking, especially heavy marijuana smoking; and second, our study provides some evidence that testicular cancer could be one adverse consequence," he said. "So, in the absence of more certain information, a decision to smoke marijuana recreationally means that one is taking a chance on one's future health.""

They sound uncertain. :P







It's also important to realize that it is not only the Drug Czar's (and his office) job to promote our drug laws... it is his job to literally *maintain* them, by any means necessary, even if it means stopping research or promoting false information:



Quote: According to Title VII Office of National Drug Control Policy Reauthorization Act of 1998: H11225: Responsibilities. --The Director-- [...] (12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that-- 1. is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and 2. has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration;


(http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2007/10/09/theDrugCzarIsRequiredByLaw.html )


So by all means, if you would rather deny all studies from so many independent institutions, universities, and non-US influenced governments so you can find some sort of refuge in the warm-blanket-of-ignorance that NIDA or any other source like fox news provides for you... be my guest. I'm not trying to force what I say on to any of you, only providing it as-is. So by all means, if you would rather deny all studies from so many independent institutions, universities, and non-US influenced governments so you can find some sort of refuge in the warm-blanket-of-ignorance that NIDA or any other "big name legit company" provides for you... be my guest. I'm not trying to force what I say on to any of you, only providing it as-is. what you gave me is not confirmed...marijuana is a immune system system supressant is confirmed,the fact they are using marijuana that MIGHT help swine flu,is not confirmed yet either.

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i'll wait for a more credible source that i've actually heard of.shoeman12
like fox news? lol feel free to keep living in your ignorant world.

Like a real organisation that isn't pro-pot. If only we had some sort of medical association that did scientific tests on this kind of thing.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm marijuana actually shows promise in *helping* to cut tumor growth in half there is also a article where pot acctually helps promote brain cell growth....i will post it as soon as i find it.
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[QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"][QUOTE="duxup"]Oh yeah smart idea. Suppress your immune system when your sick....metroidfood

Immune system suppression" does not in any way mean a "weakened immune system". Supression simply means it keeps your immune system from over reacting, not cause it to under react. This is why marijuana is such a viable medication for persons with autoimmune diseases. There are no studies that show any correlation--yet alone causation--between marijuana use and being more susceptible to disease.

Immune system suppression means it prevents the immune system from working properly. There's no way you can prevent it from over reacting without weakening it.

Marijuana isn't really a "cure" for anything, though it does show promise in some varying specific fields of medicine. Rather, it is just an effective treatmentt. A better way to think of marijuana is not that it is some sort of "safe drug"... instead, think of it as an "effective supplement". If your body was low on calcium, you would take a supplement. If you needed more vitamin C in your diet, your doctor may tell you to drink more orange juice. If your body lacked a specific hormone, your doctor would provide you with a hormonal supplement to get your body back on track. Some of your most vital body functions (be it liver functions, facets of your immune system, or day-to-day activities of the brain) are controlled by endocannabinoids (cannabinoids created within your body). Just like with any other variable in your body, not everyone is born with the ability to create a sufficient amount of endocannabinoids naturally and, thus, we can see from studies that supplementation of endocannabinoids via consumption of marijuana-derived cannabinoids can treat certain conditions. Conditions ranging from ADHD to skin rashes. It's not a "miracle"... it's just science. :D My article clearly states that it is a proven immune system suppressant. It is only you who have decided to misconstrue that rather than google and find out what exactly suppression means.
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Except that there is no clinical evidence to support it, and smoking is not claimed to provide ANY benefits. Also, swine flu is about the dumbest single reason I've yet heard for smoking pot.xaos
The research (as well as my article) explicitly states that inhalation of combusted marijuana is in no way related to the claims of this study. To receive the benefits of ISS, you would be better off absorbing the cannabinoids orally or via digestion. For those of you who are so obviously anti-marijuana... you are free to feel however you want about a plant, just don't be afraid of it for false reasons. I promise, you are much more harmful to it than it could ever be to you.
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Oh yeah smart idea. Suppress your immune system when your sick....duxup
Immune system suppression" does not in any way mean a "weakened immune system". Supression simply means it keeps your immune system from over reacting, not cause it to under react. This is why marijuana is such a viable medication for persons with autoimmune diseases. There are no studies that show any correlation--yet alone causation--between marijuana use and being more susceptible to disease.
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http://www.showmethefacts.org/2009/04/27/marijuana-potential-treatment-swine-flu/

INTERESTING READ.

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Lets all wait for the "Wii is casual garbage!" crap.Haziqonfire
does it really even need to be said anymore? is this even a real game or is this another wii fit type thing? ive never heard of it till now.