I don't think a bad band becomes good. Bad is not the same as a band that developes and improves with age. All bands should do that until they reach the plateau of their career. Then the trick becomes staying even and not losing it.
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Then they're bad until they develop and improve... All bands should do that? They do. Without even trying. It's just the natural order of things that the more you do something, the better you get at it. Effort not required, only desire. Staying even... bad idea. You should never feel like you've reached the ceiling. Always look for new ways to expand.
I'm not saying all the songs on "All Eyez On Me" are great, but some of his best songs are definitely from that album. Especially "Holla At Me". There's no question that Tupac impeccably shines on that track.
[QUOTE="The_Versatile"][QUOTE="im_mr_brown"]i gotta go with biggie. imo he was a more skilled rapper. he was always true to himself. he liked "money, hoes and clothes". his style was untouchable. jay-z even emulated biggie's style and had great success from it. tupac on the other hand was way more inconsistent. some of his songs were great but most of them weren't. when he first started rapping he was all about empowering people and all politcal. then he went all "thug life" and started getting arrested. plus, biggie only released 2 albums and every song on those albums are great imo. i tend to just listen to tupac's greatest hits because the rest of his songs on his albums aren't worth it.im_mr_brown
You gotta take into account how Tupac was raised. Son of a Black Panther, he was always encouraged to rebel. "Thug Life" was just a way of saying he was an outcast, and he was down for whatever he had to do to survive. He wasn't actually being a thug, in the sense of a street criminal robbing liquor stores and what not. Tupac always maintained his political focus as well in his later work, it just wasn't the main focal point. He had the tendency to weave his social commentary into many songs that didn't have the overall tone of being political. You can pick up on it, if you pay attention. ;) actually, he was being a thug. beating people up in casinos? is that not being a thug? tupac went to a high school for the arts and was in shakesphere plays. he didn't start being a thug until he joined death row records. then he thought that he was a gangster. some of his songs were good then but imo thats when his material started to go flat. you can't tell me that you can listen to "all eyez on me" all the way through because the quality of content was too varied. some of those songs were just horrible. I can, and did many times listen to "All Eyez On Me" all the way through... both CDs. He wasn't beating people up in casions... :lol: That was a fight. Fights happen when enemies run into each other. It's not like he was just attacking random people for the hell of it. That's what thugs do.
[QUOTE="The_Versatile"][QUOTE="Bumzur"]If you listen to K-Fed, Jonas Brothers, Soulja Boy, etc. I'll just assume you have low musical standards and know next to nothing about music.sammyjenkis898
Don't forget John Cena's album. It's amazing. :lol: John Cena has a music career? You didn't know? That album came out a couple years ago.
Oh they're both great, no question. I'm only saying Tupac had a bigger impact not only on me, but obviously most fans of hip-hop, and people involved in street culture specifically. One thing is for sure, it hasn't been the same since they've left us. Rap sure sucks now. :( (Who gives a **** about "bling bling"?!?)
[QUOTE="The_Versatile"][QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]I find that a lot of Pac's ideas are regurgitated over and over againSway-
Sometimes yes, but most rappers do. I also forgot to mention Tupac just has better delivery. Tupac was very delussional starting beef with Biggie when he shouldnt have while Biggie was an adult and acted like one. Tupac was an emotional, sensitive person. It hurt his feelings when he found out he was being trash talked by former friends. That's why he reacted the way he did. But it's not like Big wasn't doing the same thing. Biggie made a retaliation song with "Long Kiss Goodnight" on the Life After Death album. He never mentions Pac by name, but it's obvious he's speaking to him. That's just a difference in their personalities. When Tupac had beef with someone, he made a lot of noise about it, and called people out by name. When Big criticized an adversary, he never mentioned them by name, making hints instead as to who he's talking about.
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