@tormentos: you stupid torm we see plenty of diagrams of gpu designs and archs from AMD and not one looks like the xbox one arch. You still talking about gddr5 but as you look at the roadmaps ahead gddr5 is not even mention but Esram is. When MS updates every month and the ps4 don't what you fanboys say ......well MS is a software company that's what they do.....well why you think DX12 which is Software won't improve the xbox1? You know this power talk is coming to an end and you know it the ps4 is not as powerful as people think.

Gddr5 is always gonna be a problem for the cpu

It takes 200+gb of bw to saturate 12 cu fully ps4 got 18 cu with 140gb of bw for the total system lol

I tell you what go pop in a game on the ps4 and leave it in the background then go to your browser and open 4 tabs and tell me what the ps4 says lol it take power to play a game , snap, and have other things going on something my ps4 can't do.

Which game is the next to flop I would say DC but I don't think it will be a full priced game so I'm not going to count it.

Also which game is gonna be the next exclusive AAA title and on which system?

Man why these playstation fan try to bring the xbox team in their depression? Yes the two games that y'all hyped the most are duds ISS, WD and Destiny well that's three with more to come with DC lack of content. On the xbox we are playing titan fall, forza, KI, with more great games on the way with mcc, so, and horizion and that's not even talking about mulitplats that you can add. So don't put me with your depression great games being played over here.

@tormentos: you a trip torm ISS is bland no matter how go it look. Open world but nothing to do in the open world, no interaction with the world ,big ass puddles in the road and walk right one top of it lol, can't swim in the water when its 40% of the game lol, no people in the cars who driving? Lol I could go on and on but I won't you get it,

DC yes pretty again but weather is not coming until later, 50 cars,55 tracks for a racing game ? Lol night and day time cycles are on a slider lol, no real tuning, minor decal customizing, can even stay off the road for four seconds before the game automatically puts you back on the road is lol.

We can talk about the past but I told you from the get go what the ps4 is going to be about go back through our post pretty games with empty and soulless worlds, and what's funny its not even the gpu that's gonna be the downfall its gonna be as I said back then CPU is gonna be the weakest point of the system and you can see it with the lack of the things going on on the screen of the games of the ps4 the lack of AF in the games and texture streaming.

And about the 7790 inside the xbox you are stupid with that so by your thoughts and every other follower of TORM say MS got a off the shelf GPU put esram on top of it took a regular CPU and split it and put Esram in between it just to modify a 7790? Lol

Ps4 got all the ROPs, all the CUs,

But no BW and CPU to run it lol you killing me torm

I see torm and brigade huncher still on that same shit lol they talk about all this power and gflops but its not a single EXCLUSIVE showing the power who utilizing all of that power? Killzone? Knack? ISS it was pretty but souless and empty. Matter of fact the next 3 to 4 exclusives are going to be linear for the ps4 , Destiny was made with the ps4 at mind and its a good game to me but I believe the ps4 is holding the game back . There's no one game exclusively on the ps4 that's pushing any kind of bounderies that shows it has the most power yes the games do look pretty but that is it.

Just maybe the ps4 is not as powerful as y'all thought it was.

What game shows ps4 shows the 40 percent more power ? Im talking not just from a visable standpoint.

No different from ISS....pretty game but thats it extremely boring. DUP lol

@Dire_Weasel: this is not GAF ...them wack ass punchlines are not useful here but whatever helps the fanboys sleep at night.

I dont listen to DF they didnt go through the ps4 for hours as they did with the xbox one framerate problems and they looked at the same spots xbox had framerate slow downs I know people say its slow downs on the ps4 too.

ONLINE ONLY=xbox one, bungie knows MS hardware so no doubt it will be great on xbox one