@Wasdie: You know sometimes you be hurting my feeling as a mod of this site of course you have to have the power to run that engine and to use the pipeline they was using for ryse. You just have to give credit where its due, cloth physics( jewelery, armor, flags, trees blowing) unmatched by any game, Depth Of Field, motion blur ( unmatched by any game ) Lighting again unmatched by any game at this moment on consoles. Physical Based Rendering takes alot of power and the only thing thats doing Physical Based Rendering on the ps4 is The Order and you see how that is going the have already downgraded some things since first showed, even at 800p.

@tormentos: if one is in 13 countries and the other is in 72 countries wouldnt one ship more?

SSOD, HALO, and Horizon 2 has more replay value that anything the ps4 has to offer no matter how you spin it. Most likely rate higher as I said from the begining its going to be a 3rd party extravaganza and indie welcome mat on the ps4 they just showed us they games until 2016 from first party they just lack the money We been Kickstarting the Ps4 from the get go.

For people that's goo gooing over that uncharted trailer really never played Ryse. You have to give the xbox1 one some credit the shaders, lighting, and AA also the highest DOF and motion blur in any console game until maybe uncharted or quatum break or homefront if you know how to use the possiblities are endless that's why ND kills every game they make they know the system.

@tormentos: im glad that you got a ps4 because that nutt riding was getting out of hand lol like i said deferred rendering was last gen stuff there are new things awaiting ,Tiled rendering, PBS, foveted rendering are just a few thats gonna be the norm soon but i will let you copy and paste until then.

once we move from deferred rendering engines from last gen we can move on to better bandwidth, better memory allocation, and more memory saved

That torm is sooooo lost lol

@shawn30: i was about to say the same thing its shaping up to be a good game the sense of speed is ridiculous

right now I just see a bunch of multiplats and indies for the ps4 they just dont have the money for making big budget games. That dev told sony about a year ago he wasnt even working on that game and most likely you will never see it again

@tormentos: dude you dont have either one so why you on every board discussing something you dont have? the only game that has any kind of replay value on the ps4 is mlb the show the rest you play you beat you trade.