@tormentos: damn you still sound mad lol go argue with the dev that said 14+4 setup was easy to use I not me so go to japan and you can fight with him.

We wasnt talking about the supposely 15 special processors I said the 2 extra graphic compute commands and the 2 extra cpu compute command its for gpgpu not need to uses the CUs thats used for graphics

That audio chip only has true audio framework aka a wrapper Cerny said you will still would need CPU for some in game sounds.

The ps4 doesnt have a separate processors for video encoding and decoding and still using cpu for resizing and compositing.

The ps4 doesnt have a extra cpu lol stop that but that was funny torm.

I said the engines devs are using are dx 9 dx 10 engines on a system thats fully dx11.2 and dx12 isn't going to get the most out of the system.

Just go read what NVIDIA, AMD doing for the upcoming cards and you tell me who is more inline where the industry is moving to.

bu bu bu infamous is 1080p lol .it just shows you your game can look very pretty but it has to have replay value or its going to be left behind Sony exclusives= flash in a pan

@LJS9502_basic: what we are the 6th month of this gen? We are still using dx9 and dx10 engines on new arch? lets pick this back up in 6 to 7 more months.

@tormentos: damn why i got to be a troll torm? Name calling? You keep going back to the same article, when basically said the same thing but steady denying what hes really trying to tell you, x1 dont need to use CUs for gpgpu 2 cpu compute command blocks and 2 graphic command blocks for gpgpu. The x1 has extra processors for things that the ps4 uses its gpu and cpu for you know offloading.

@stereointegrity: I'm going to explain this again them words are not mines its from a dev that used the system that has a game he made on the ps4 and he said if he could have the whole 18 they would have he said 14+4 setup was easy setup means sony has it that way also if you see the schedualer for the ps4 CU they are using only 14 for graphics stop getting mad you can't say its debunked until someone uses more than 14 cu for graphics

When you see MS and epic partnership game that's when the engine take off

@tormentos: damn torm you sound mad. We got docs that leaked from sony that says 14+4 cu is a balance now we have a real dev from a real game that it is a 14+4 cu setup why you just can't accept that? I ve been saying from the get go old engines dx 9 dx 10 will not fully use a dx 11.2 arch. New engines won't be brute force it will be about putting the right data in the right place data flow,

The ps3 arch was ahead of its time and MS knew it but they have a stronghold on the industry so the devs went with MS ......so Sony thought this gen was gonna stay with brute force but x1 and dx 12 is about data flow supercomputer ps3 arch.

@tormentos: giant bomb.com dev from dynasty warrior 8 talking about use of CU and he said if they would have a faster clock and use the whole 18 instead they could have did more and if you look at the hotchips diagram you see that two extra graphic compute and two extra cpu command processors is for direct compute. And they sony is using game sound from gpu too. You have to include all of that things are closer than you all make it out to be. When new engines come out if the x1 still struggling we can come back to this subject but until we stop cross genning game you will never get the full story.

man the guy who made dynasty warrior 8 on the ps4 says specifically the 14+4 set up is every easy to use so its 1.3tf vs 1.4tf for graphics but gddr5 wants to go faster than the cpu can deliver, API changes will help the ps4 too so DX12 will be great for the x1

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