[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]Which is my point. Except it is quite easy to tell, given the quote's context, that he meant "real".SirWander

Ha, that's true, but it's easy to misinterpret (out of context).

People are going to attack him because he made such ridiculous, and quite frankly sexist, claims. I will agree with you in that labeling him a misogynist only detracts from his sheer and obvious stupidity, but Akin's statement only puts the blame of the pregnancy on the woman. And you've said in this thread that it was a way to "demonize abortion," you've conceded that it's a statement of malcontent meant to deride a woman's right to choose. To label Akin a misogynist is not that far fetched, by publicly making that statement he invited scrutiny.

What I want to know is what in Akin's character makes him worthy of defense? One misogynistic statement doesn't make a person a misogynist, does it? But why else would he be saying something so stupid. Why else would he say that the female body can tell the difference between a real rape and one that isn't?

I'm not defending him or his political views, but his statment, which people have been using as evidence of mysogyny, which it most clearly is not. An indicator? maybe, that id subjective, but in no way does he say that rape is in any form permissable. And yes, his motivation for the comment was to support his argument that rape was not a legitimate (:P) reason to abort. Once again, I just take issue with the way that his comment has been portrayed by news articles. I actually had to do some digging to find the whole quote, which all articles I read conviniently left out, leaving some people who did not take the time to research the issue to believe that he was going as far as to say that some forms of rape are permissable. I am not defending Akin, just attacking the articles that have this bias.

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]That does not contradict my post. Try actually thinking before you type.MannyDelgado

You're telling me to think? Read the fvcking quote for Christ's sake it directly contradicts everything you've said.

Ok either

A) you are extremely uneducated and cannot articulate an argument or,

B) you are just a troll

either way, I won't respond back until you actually post a comment that has merit.

[QUOTE="Fiona Lloyd-Davies"]I've never been able to find an answer. Clearly both father and daughter were the victims, but I've still never understood how it was even physically possible. How did they ever get erections? SirWander

lol somebody give this lady a job on SNL.

LOL TC legitimate is a synonym to justifiable, learn to grammar bro.

Which is my point. Except it is quite easy to tell, given the quote's context, that he meant "real".

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Idiot. No one interpreted 'legitimate rape' as meaning 'justified rape'.MannyDelgado

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/28/opinion/etzioni-akin-rape-comment/index.html

"Last week, Republicans and Democrats alike chastised U.S. Rep. Todd Akin for coming up with a highly troubling reference to "legitimate rape," implying that not all rapes were unjustified, like say when a married man forces his wife to have sex."

His opinion is what prompted me to start this thread.

You're telling me to think? Read the fvcking quote for Christ's sake it directly contradicts everything you've said.

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Idiot. No one interpreted 'legitimate rape' as meaning 'justified rape'.MannyDelgado

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/28/opinion/etzioni-akin-rape-comment/index.html

"Last week, Republicans and Democrats alike chastised U.S. Rep. Todd Akin for coming up with a highly troubling reference to "legitimate rape," implying that not all rapes were unjustified, like say when a married man forces his wife to have sex."

His opinion is what prompted me to start this thread.

You're telling me to think? Read the fvcking quote for Christ's sake it directly contradicts everything you've said.

[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

So it's starting to piss me off how the statement by Rep Todd Akin is being taken so out of context. By legitimate, he is implying "real" not "justified". Here's the actual quote: "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try and shut that whole thing down". And so we have feminists and radicals on the left trying to make this out to be an all out attack on women. He is an idiot, has no grasp of biology, and I am amazed (well, not really, this is America afterall) that he was elected to office, but he IS NOT and mysogynist, at least not from what is evident from his statement. And yet I have seen bullsh*t opinion articles like this one

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-08-23/opinion/opinion_akin-galloway-opinion_1_julian-assange-strange-bedfellows-congo

which are nothing more than feminist hate-mongering.

MannyDelgado

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/28/opinion/etzioni-akin-rape-comment/index.html

"Last week, Republicans and Democrats alike chastised U.S. Rep. Todd Akin for coming up with a highly troubling reference to "legitimate rape," implying that not all rapes were unjustified, like say when a married man forces his wife to have sex."

His opinion is what prompted me to start this thread.

LOL Todd Akin defense force. ive seen it all

Aljosa23

All I'm pointing out was that his statement was taken out of context, I am in no way defending him. I share none of his political views.

[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

So it's starting to piss me off how the statement by Rep Todd Akin is being taken so out of context. By legitimate, he is implying "real" not "justified". Here's the actual quote: "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try and shut that whole thing down". And so we have feminists and radicals on the left trying to make this out to be an all out attack on women. He is an idiot, has no grasp of biology, and I am amazed (well, not really, this is America afterall) that he was elected to office, but he IS NOT and mysogynist, at least not from what is evident from his statement. And yet I have seen bullsh*t opinion articles like this one

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-08-23/opinion/opinion_akin-galloway-opinion_1_julian-assange-strange-bedfellows-congo

which are nothing more than feminist hate-mongering.

theone86

So the statement that rape-related pregnancies should not be aborted because the female body sometimes prevents them isn't mysogynistic?

No, it 's simply misguided. He is trying to find a way to demonize abortion, not to justify rape, which is what people are interpreting this as.

So it's starting to piss me off how the statement by Rep Todd Akin is being taken so out of context. By legitimate, he is implying "real" not "justified". Here's the actual quote: "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try and shut that whole thing down". And so we have feminists and radicals on the left trying to make this out to be an all out attack on women. He is an idiot, has no grasp of biology, and I am amazed (well, not really, this is America afterall) that he was elected to office, but he IS NOT and mysogynist, at least not from what is evident from his statement. And yet I have seen bullsh*t opinion articles like this one

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-08-23/opinion/opinion_akin-galloway-opinion_1_julian-assange-strange-bedfellows-congo

which are nothing more than feminist hate-mongering.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Just tax fat people more.Laihendi

Because paying for their health insurance is a burden on others. Obese peopel should have to pay higher taxes.