I love how for your defense in comparing US and Britain to Nazi Germany you pulled out Serfdom, which happened before Nazi Germany. So I'm pretty sure you should go do some more reading instead of watching a movie and thinking you know all, before calling people here morons...

Scarface_tm431

I'm not trying to defend myself. If you think I appear foolish then I have no problem with that.

Serfdom was the old way in which megalomaniacs inflicted control over the lives of the majority. The groundwork of which traces is routes back to the Roman Empire and is still existant in todays society.

I believe that Zeitgeist is trying to propose the re-establishment of Serfdom versus the Nobility upon the existing foundations of ex-serfdom in Britain and American influence from British establishment.

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]It was a BBC documentary. When serfs weren't allowed to leave their landowners property.Chaos_HL21

IIRC Serfdom in england was pretty much ended in the 1500s

Each generation of megalomaniacs will have to go about their evil in a new way. Religion, Serfdom, Racism, Debt, have all been used to control people.

Many of the defining factors of serfdom never went away. We are still indebted to the land we live on. Britain created a merchant class system around the time of the signing of the Magna Carter (the foundation of Democracy in Britain and traditionally America) which saw the end of traditional serfdom and the foundation of where we are today.

I'll join what 90% of the people here are saying

Blah blah, blahblahblabh blah, blahblah blah.

Infinite-Zr0

90% of the people here are moronic.

Zeitgeist has been placed down on South Park hasn't it? IIRC they made fun of it. It shows just how much control the media have over popular consciousness. How many people here remember that giant South Park Wii advertisement?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

The film's very make-up is a gigantic red flag. The whole over-blown 'overture' is an obvious plea to your emotions. Then when it gets to the Carlin monologue, it preys on two emotions - disdain with the audio, and disgust with the visual (particularly with the arrow piercing the heart).

Also, note how the narrator never shows his bloody face, and speaks in a near-monotone. This is to give the illusion of omniscience. This is to make you trust the speaker, and the overture and the awful, awful soundtrack have lulled you into a state of gullibility, so to speak.

Also, be very suspicious of quote mining. >_>

gameguy6700

With Zeitgeist you have to be more suspicious of the "facts" themselves than quote mining. The first 1/3 of it is almost complete fabrication (I don't know about the rest of the movie since I stopped watching once it launched into it's NWO and 9/11 conspiracy theory bs).

[QUOTE="Scarface_tm431"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="stedtfeld"]Actually, they are not even close to becoming like Nazi Germany.Tony-Harrison

Britain was worse than Nazi Germany back when the citizens where all under Serfdom.

Do you even realize just how bad Nazi Germany was? Comparin to Nazi Germany of certain points is like saying Mozza Cheese and Tuna are the same, just because they both smell bad. Whereas they're not the same at all because one's straight up meat has a totally different taste and texture, and the nutritional info is different too

Do you have any idea how oppressive Britain was to it's own people?

Anyone caught in any forest who wasn't a lord (95%) was treated as game and could be hunted and killed legally by a lord (5%).

The punishment for killing a serf was a fine that could be afforded by the nobility. But anyone who killed a member of the nobility was sentenced to death.

Source please.

I'm not saying I don't believe that the feudal system was oppressive to the lower ****s, I'm just saying that that seems a bit too extreme even for that era.

It was a BBC documentary. When serfs weren't allowed to leave their landowners property.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]For example, the claims of the mandatory national ID by June 2008... it's August. No such thing has happened.PannicAtack

Well it had already happened. Throughtout the month of June, Bush peronally broke into every Americans house when they are asleep and tagged them with an ID tag. :P

I really hate the Zeitgesit, it is pretty much all crap, and people use it as total fact way too much.

Quote it to me.

Zeitgeist Movie

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="stedtfeld"]Actually, they are not even close to becoming like Nazi Germany.Scarface_tm431

Britain was worse than Nazi Germany back when the citizens where all under Serfdom.

Do you even realize just how bad Nazi Germany was? Comparin to Nazi Germany of certain points is like saying Mozza Cheese and Tuna are the same, just because they both smell bad. Whereas they're not the same at all because one's straight up meat has a totally different taste and texture, and the nutritional info is different too

Do you have any idea how oppressive Britain was to it's own people?

Anyone caught in any forest who wasn't a lord (95%) was treated as game and could be hunted and killed legally by a lord (5%).

The punishment for killing a serf was a fine that could be afforded by the nobility. But anyone who killed a member of the nobility was sentenced to death.

The Expanding Earth Conspiracy

I guess this one isn't real because you don't see his face either. You people are so swayed by peer pressure and authority that your making up your own stuff. "The fact that he doesn't show his face is to create omnipresence".... it's just a documentary.

Actually, they are not even close to becoming like Nazi Germany.stedtfeld

Britain was worse than Nazi Germany back when the citizens where all under Serfdom.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]For example, the claims of the mandatory national ID by June 2008... it's August. No such thing has happened.LJS9502_basic

Well it had already happened. Throughtout the month of June, Bush peronally broke into every Americans house when they are asleep and tagged them with an ID tag. :P

I really hate the Zeitgesit, it is pretty much all crap, and people use it as total fact way too much.

ID Cards are real in my country.:(

Zeitgeist is real.

For example, the claims of the mandatory national ID by June 2008... it's August. No such thing has happened.PannicAtack

That DID happen in England. They're still trying to get ID Cards passed.

The Patriot Act does technically enable the government to do very unconstitutional things, however, they aren't going to be using it for much more than sloppy surveilance, as the ACLU and media are waiting to light a fire under their ass. >_>

PannicAtack

Your right. The Patriot Act did enable the government to do very unconstitutional things.