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So, you're relying on an article written by an information technology and computer science illiterate just because it supports your point, rather than making your own one.

This is worse than usual. It's downright stereotypical.

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You paid a crap-ton of money for a product that is objectively slower, objectively more expensive, and objectively less feature-filled. If you want to up play the subjective aspect of build quality, thats cool. is it worth all those other downsides? Most people don't think so. Thats where all tne "hate" comes from.

ok so i paid more money for a product which is slower, more expensive and less feature filled... for one my macbook is faster than your laptop, has a better graphics card and has a better battery life than your laptop... i wonder if my macbook will last longer than your laptop... less feature filled?? why is that?? because the list of applications is less than for pc?? i remember owning a pc and when i had to buy software for it i had so many programs to chose from, all one worse than the other... yes mac has less but better quality, and i will take quality over quantity every time... again your only argument seems to be that you can get laptops for cheaper that are faster... you say whats the point in having a comfortable car that does not get you where you want to go?? what does that mean?? macs do not function?? they do get you where you want to go... just with less power... i dont think anyone really has a reason to hate mac, other than the fact that all they know about them is they cost more and have less power.... that seems to be all they need to know to make your judgement... and yes, i said it, ipods are the best for the average user, i have a shuffle, and it works perfectly... removable media, do not know why i would need it on an mp3 player... better sound quality?? really?? and the same size of a shuffle?? and cheaper?? which one??

Is there a reason you made a new thread with the exact same text you posted on this other thread?

I'll answer your thread title, though:

1) Macs are overpriced. Macbooks are especially overpriced.

2) Macs are terrible for gaming. Excuse me if I ignore your opinion on how they are just as good as windows based pcs.

Show me ANY Macbook and I'll show you a laptop that for the same price is significantly better in every category you can possibly imagine, even battery life. Of course, if you take advantage of all the superior capacities of this new laptop, it's going to have a lower battery life, so to compare them you'd have to scale down this new laptop to the macbook's inferior capabilities.

Rev3nger

first of all i started a new thread with the same text on another thread, because the other thread got me thinking why is everyone so against it... therefore i wanted to see if i could answer that question...

as i expected no one really read my thread, i guess when people get past the second line the skim read the rest and think they have understood what i am saying... all these answers reflect that...

you say macs are terrible for gaming, but i have just told you i play games on my mac and they work great... go on youtube, see people playing via bootcamp... see it for yourself... they work great, you get the best of both operating systems...

again i know you can get a laptop with higher processing power than a mac, you say every category, thats not true, try finding me one with better battery with the same processing power as a mac...

all of you speak as if power is everything, nothing else matters... you can have the fastest car in the world but if driving it is uncomfortable your not going to like it... after all on a day to day basis your not going to be driving at full speed all the time...

the chiplet keyboard is so nice to use, the huge track pad, the multi touch... using a mac is a joy... this is my first macbook, before i had a sony vaio and all i can say is that this macbook feels like a computer from the future... how i put up with vist all those year, and these clunky pcs, i just do not know... there is no way i could go back... dont hate mac for being good, they make the best mp3 players, they made the ipad, everyone else then made a tablet pc, everything they do is copied by all the others... can you not see that??

macbooks are not overpriced at all... find me a laptop with better build quality, better battery, nicer to use... can you not see how all the other laptops are just copying everything from the macbooks... the chiplet keyboard has been copied to death... the design, most laptops are trying to look like macbooks...

the power difference which you all seem so obsessed about, is going to do what for you?? be slightly faster when running your programs?? how much faster?? my programs open pretty quick, i do not need them to open any faster, as i would barely notice it...

I recently bought a 13 inch macbook pro... was looking around for ages as i needed a laptop that was portable, had good battery, and that i could play games on... being that games were an important part of what my laptop had to have i did not even look at macs as everyone knows they do not do games well... so all i found of the windows based pcs that were portable and were good at gaming, was the alienware m11x... i was very keen on it, seemed to be the only product that met my needs... well until i came across it in a shop and saw just how small an 11 inch screen was, as well as how tacky it looked, and how terrible the keyboard felt...

after seeing the alienware i was immediately turned off of it... looked like one of those cheap personal computer toys you give to a child, felt like one too...

so there i was, with the only option being to buy a 17inch beast of a gaming laptop, with just a few minutes battery life if i wanted to be able to continue gaming (am on a year abroad with my uni),

at that point i looked at the mac... this computer had the portability, the battery life, good looks, solid build quality... all needs were met except my gaming needs... or at least i thought...

i bought the mac, and bought boot camp, i now can run both os and i just use windows for my games... they were amazingly... everything i have thrown at it has run with no problems... i just cant understand all these gamers against mac... they say they are over priced because for the same price you can get a more powerful windows based laptop, but the truth is yes it may be more powerful but you are missing out on all the rest that makes a mac far superior... the battery life... wow... use it all day off the charger... use it all around the house... build quality is amazing... its all built from one piece of aluminium so when u hold it, it feels solid... there are no bits that move, or squeak... instant on off, close the lid, open it, there it is waiting for you... the fan is as silent as they come, only getting louder when you are really pushing the machine... perfect size and weight, who wants a chunky gaming laptop that weighs a ton... there is no point, just get a desktop...

i could go on and on, the truth is this mac is the best thing i have ever bought... typing on it right now is a joy, it just oozes quality all over... for the power boost you get on your money using a windows based pc you miss out on all the other things that make a greater difference to your overall experience... people need to get over hating something they just dont know enough about, because no one knows how sweet a macbook is, until you have one of your own... and even then you have to have used it for a while to learn all the secrets of the system...

as for its gaming capabilities, do not listen to anyone who tells you they are not good... get bootcamp... it works a dream... no problems with it... no compatibility problems... works just the same as on a windows based laptop... most of these people saying it doesnt work as well, have never tried it, i am sure...

and finally as for not being able to put all the settings on high, well boo hoo, find me a laptop where you can put every game on high, but make sure that same laptop does not weigh a ton, and has a good battery life... because laptops are made to portable... otherwise i said it and i will say it again, get a desktop!!!

Well i can only tell you my experience from using bootcamp, it has been without any problems... i think as time has passed apple has understood that some people still need windows for certain programs or games and consequently they have made sure macs are able to do it... upon installing it you realise how quick and easy it is to get all your mac function buttons and two finger scrolling setup, and that apple have made huge leaps in making windows run flawlessly on macbooks...

when i first bought it i was worried that there was going to be a big performance drop when using windows, but i have not noticed any such drop in performance... in fact i have been very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the gaming i have been able to achieve... i only use windows to play games... i use the mac os for everything else... i must also say i prefer the mac os system a lot more to windows 7...

they have greatly improved windows with this latest release... but i still feel most of what is better is what the mac os already has... i also have come to love multi touch, cant go back to not having it, it just becomes second nature... then there are lots of small things i prefer on the mac os... for example... when I scroll down on a mac it is a perfectly smooth motion, and if i want to scroll down fast, a swift swipe of my fingers and the scroll continues to roll down a bit... on windows it is not so smooth, it tends to jolt in segments, and stops scrolling straight after your fingers leave the pad...

not big things, but it all adds up...