[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]I would ****fy torchlight more of a hack and slash, along with diablo. Second, MMO have to have lesser graphics to be successful since they need to have a wide audience that can play them. The correlation between him saying consoles are the problem and you saying casuals is because in general, the casuals are on the consoles.

lawlessx

You do know that is concerning the specs it would require to run the game...right?

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]I would ****fy torchlight more of a hack and slash, along with diablo. Second, MMO have to have lesser graphics to be successful since they need to have a wide audience that can play them. The correlation between him saying consoles are the problem and you saying casuals is because in general, the casuals are on the consoles.

dc337

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[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"] Well i prefered the DOOM 3 graphics over those of Battlefield 2 but my point was last gen it also was a PC game which was the best looking not a console game :)theuncharted34

Agreed. did you see Doom 3 on consoles? It was nasty to look at. I mean really nasty.

what do you mean consoles? it was only on the xbox :? now I don't think you've seen it on xbox. It looked reeeelly good bro.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"][QUOTE="dc337"]

How are consoles to blame when there are console RPG exclusives like Demon's Souls that offer more challenge than pc exclusives like Torchlight?

The real problem is developers going after casuals, not consoles.

The real headline should be: Bioware has officially abandoned their core audience.

dc337

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"][QUOTE="dc337"]

How are consoles to blame when there are console RPG exclusives like Demon's Souls that offer more challenge than pc exclusives like Torchlight?

The real problem is developers going after casuals, not consoles.

The real headline should be: Bioware has officially abandoned their core audience.

finalfantasy94

Yea but its the developers choice to make such game on the consols. Dont blame the console crowd.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

RE4 on the gamecube still holds up today, and has a great artstyle and probably the best looking game last gen imo. Wait until ico and shadow are re released in 720p, comepletly redone textures, and this time a great framerate :P shadow will look amazing by all standards, just wait.

ChubbyGuy40

Battlefield 2 > Doom 3! Oh wait theres mods damn...Can't use Oblivion or FEAR cause those count as this gen too :x

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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

He said Resident Evil 4 on the gamecube looked better....

theuncharted34

Ouch.

As far as previous-gen console games look, RE4 for the GC it isn't too bad. In fact, I'm thinking of hooking my kid's NGC back up. I know we have NGC RE4 (or was that the Remake?) lying around somewhere. But as far as looks? Not even looking at the low resolution...... RE4 is one of those games with a bland color palette many here grumbled about. In fact, it makes all the KZ games look like a rainbow.:lol:

Honestly, I don't think there's a lot of previous-gen games that can hustle around current-gen games except perhaps some older PC games which at least have AA and resolution to help them out.

RE4 on the gamecube still holds up today, and has a great artstyle and probably the best looking game last gen imo. Wait until ico and shadow are re released in 720p, comepletly redone textures, and this time a great framerate :P shadow will look amazing by all standards, just wait.

How are consoles to blame when there are console RPG exclusives like Demon's Souls that offer more challenge than pc exclusives like Torchlight?

The real problem is developers going after casuals, not consoles.

The real headline should be: Bioware has officially abandoned their core audience.

dc337

heres a question: is an rpg a game where you spend tons of time comparing armor sets and skill trees or is it a game where the emphasis is on being a character? i know my answer, but im not sure of everyone elses right now.LoG-Sacrament

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Because of the consoles hardware I havent had the need to upgrade a single part in my Pc since 2008 on a Pc that was built in 2007 for Crysis and the upgrade in 2008 was another gpu for SLI(higher resolution performance) and a memory addition for a 64 bit OS.Game-fu

I blame three things for this:

1) 'Budget' video cards.

2) World of Warcraft

3) The Sims