Okay, im gonna beat down the myth that MGS is not a system seller.

First, lets look at sales and the game's postion in sales:

MGS1 6.6 mill 7th highest selling game on the ps1

MGS2 7 mill 6th highest selling game on the ps2. The 5 games that beat it were 3 GTAs and the 2 GTs. Everyone knows what juggernauts they are and being second to them is quite a feet.

MGS3 3.7 mill 9th highest selling game on the ps2.

Take in mind that anything that sells over 500,000 copies is considered a hit.

Okay, so every MGS game has been in the top ten of best selling on its respective console. Now lets look at scores, Im not including any of the re-releases:

Gamespot 8.5 Gamerankings 92.7%

Gamespot 9.6 Gamerankings 94.9%

Gamespot 8.7 Gamrerankings 91.6%

Now, lets talk about the sales and scores combined. As you can see, the sales kind of reflect the scores. MGS2 had the highest, with MGS3 the lowest.

MGS1: This was a revolutionary game. Never before had voice acting, story, graphics, gameplay, and a musical score come to blend so perfectly in a videogame. Most people call it one of the best games of all time. IGN called it the best PS1 game. It is on the top 100 games of all time on numerous sites. Even System Wars polled it as the best game of the ps1/n64 era(It would be awesome if someone gave me the link) It was critisized for its short length though.

MGS2: Another revolutionary game. It was THE first game of the generation to feature such brilliant graphics. It refined the gameplay of MGS1 and introduced numerous things. Critics hailed it as a reason to get the ps2.

MGS3: Even though it was a great game it was by no means revolutionary. It introduced new things but pretty much all the new features except CQC were critisized. The graphics were great but by no means ahead of the rest of the pack.

Okay now, lets talk hype.

MGS1 was hyped a lot. Everyone was going crazy for it.

MGS2 was hyped like crazy, it was always the showcase of the floor. It was first next gen game to show such amazing graphics.

MGS3 had barely no hype at all. It was late in the ps2s gen and wasnt doing much new. It wasnt revolutionary.

MGS4 is recieving crazy hype. Every single gameshow its on, it steals the floor. Magazines keep touting it. You know how much free publicity this game gets just because of the "will this be ported to 360" debate. MGS4 has BY FAR recieved the most hype out of all MGS games.

You might have noticed a pattern above, more hype more sales(duh). So MGS4 will sell.

Honestly, how many times have you heard, Im buying a ps3 for mgs4, ill buy a ps3 around the time mgs4 comes out, only reason I want a ps3 is for MGS4. Ive heard it hundreds of times.

And now the System Seller debate. MGS2 moved ps2s. It gave it a boost in the beginning to get it started. Gears of War moved 360s, didnt it sell like 2 mill 360s?

MGS4 will do the same that GEOW and MGS2 did for the 360 and ps2.

I'm a man of logic so let me use some logic.

Library- The reason to own both a ps1 and a ps2 in the past was it's superior library. This generation they aren't even in the ballpark. Wii will destroy the ps3's lineup this holiday and the xbox360 is miles ahead of that. I hear alot talk about Metal gear solid and Final Fantasy. The only 2 real big reason's to own a ps3.

Metal Gear Solid 4- Lets face it. This series has gown downhill since the first one. The Original Metal Gear was a work of art but the latest entries are not that great. The original was fresh, new, and was just a spectacular game. Metal Gear 2 was good but not great. MG2 had strange story elements and you didn't even play as snake most of the time. Metal Gear 3 in my opinion was pure trash. The story element was lame, and the game was just bland. MG3 substance was a little better but still not great. Basically your Big Boss who looks like snake (he's the original of your clone) and you wonder throug the jungle most of it. Very lame. Will MG4 improve on it? Graphically yes but I'll hold off on the gameplay.

Final Fantasty- This series has went from great to mediocre to good. This is no guarenteed killer app and there is not enough info to judge it right now.

If you want a blu-ray player then go ahead, pick up a cheap ps3. THe games on the other hand dont' look strong enough to own one. If you are a die hard sony fanboy then of course your blinded by truth. I and alot of other people see no reason to own one.

ps: Even GTA 4 will have exlusive content for the 360.

Nin360

Please stop acting like you have played any of the metal gears.

i'm goth and i can't stand emos. dissonantblack

So, your even worse than an emo?

I feel like socking them in the face whenever I see them.

(no psycho)

And we must do something about it.

Ron Paul everyone.

Is it just me or is this exact same topic made every day?

Anyways, MGS is the better series IMO.

Also, one thing I find really annoying is that MGS3 recieved a low score because they said its barely adds anything new and is too similar to the past games. Read the review if you dont believe me.

Now someone tell me, what the hell did Halo3 add to the series other than new weopens and a half-assed "map-create" mode.

Halo is just another popular game. I cant even name the amount of people I know what bought it on the first day even though they dont like it much but have a 360. Theyre just following the trend/fad.

In 10 years, Halo will be forgotten while MGS will be remebered.

Also, Gamespot screwed up on the scores of 1 and 3. Go to gamerankings and metacritic or ign or something. Pretty much every other site gave it good scores. I think they have an average of like 93% or something there.

*Snake destroys helicopter and then while hes walking away it blows up*

Snake: That takes care of the cremation.

Most badass line ever.

And oh yeah, the whole MGS3 ending was the best ending I have ever seen in any form of media, be that games, movies, or books.