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#1 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Okay, why are some ppl talking abt games, im talking sales. That really all it comes down to at the end when considering whether a product is a flop or not.
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#2 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]

Please restrain from fanboyism and be logical:)

I think this gen is gonna end like this:

Wii at 60 mill units

PS3 at 50 mill units

360 at 25-30 mill units

I think 360 will do steadily okay(not good or bad) for the rest of the gen. PS3 sales WILL speed upwhen price drops follow because a)brandname b)once price is taken out the question, it is the most desirable system for any casua. I think Wii will keep doing good but will slow down a bit.

XYZVector

I think the WII will end out with 100 mil - 150 mil, it's still sold out everywhere, not even I pods can sell that fast. I don't know if Nintendo is artifically holding production down, to keep them supply constrained. However they still sold 6 million in less than a year. 360 will be in second with 50-75 mil the year lead makes all the difference, the PS3 will do 25-35 mil.

There is one question to the TC, does the generation end when one next gen console is sold, or when the sales are negligable on the current generation. PS2 still has life in it, as long as games are being developed for it. It's still selling more than 360and PS3.

I think it ends when ALL the next gen consoles come into play, so it will imo end when the new nintendo, MS, and sony product come out(assuming they all stay in the videogame market)

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#3 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]
The situation is completely different though. Casuals are the biggest component of the market. Most casuals want a ps3 and will buy one after a price drop. Its just the price that scares em away.
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That's a totally ridiculous statement.

Do you have any statistics to support that claim? You cannot simply decide what most casuals want. Based on the sales of Wii Sports, Wii Play, and the Touch Generation games it appears that they want Nintendo products.

The price is not the only problem that the PS3 faces. It also lacks games with mass-market appeal, and is under constant fire from the media. Third party support may be alright now, but it will go elsewhere if it continues to sell as it is.

Pretty much everyone I have talked to and doesnt know much abt gaming. Im not even kidding but they have some kind of conception that ps3 is 3x more powerful than the 360. And everyone knows abt the ps3. Sony is building back its PR after they ruined it. Media is getting impressed by Sony now btw. Its the 360 thats getting the heat now.

And wii is getting sales because it is expanding the market. A lot of ppl regard it as a cool "toy" rather than a gaming system. Trust me, I dont see ps3 losing anywhere and im not a fanboy at all, it just wont happen.

It wont dominate the competition liek the ps2 did but it will do good.

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#4 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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MGS4. Nintendo and MS fanboys cant appreciate the game just because its prolly not coming to their consoles. I mean cmon, when I hear ppl say omg it looked horrible etc. it pisses me off, take your fanboy goggles for a sec and just appreciate a game for what it is, and dont think abt what console its on. I could bet that if no or all console had been annoucned for mgs4 as of now, everyone would be all over it praising it.
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#5 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]Wii: 150 million+
DS: 130 million +
PSP: 50 million +
Xbox 360: 30 million +
PS3: 25 million +

The market is definitely going to expand over last generation.

PS2 and GBC both sold over 115 million, and DS and Wii are easily ahead of that pace.

The PSP is selling very well in terms of hardware, having already sold over 22 million. The redesign and some big titles will boost that even more.

Xbox 360 is selling at a slightly better pace than the original Xbox, with Halo 3 on the way.

PS3 simply isn't selling very well. That doesn't mean it isn't a great system, but I don't see it in anywhere but last in terms of sales. It still gets beaten by GBA in America, Japanese sales are never above 15k weekly, and in Europe it only does about as well as 360. It doesn't have a large enough foothold in any of the markets.
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Thing is though, ask any casual at all who doesnt already have a system and then say what system would you rather have if price wasnt in the question, they would say ps3. Basically, ps3 is wanted because of brandname and due to the misconception that it is a crapload more powerful than the 360 but the price drives ppl away. And I think all the Japanese are just waiting for Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo to come out to buy a ps3. Like Ive read a lot of Japs say they will get one when FF13 comes out. They eat those games man. I really dont see ps3 doing bad in the long run, it has too much of brandpower to lose out.


Brand name loyalty doesn't mean anything except for here in System Wars. If it did mean anything, then what happened to SEGA, Atari, Nintendo, and Sony?

-Virtual Boy sold less than one million units, even though it came out directly after SNES
-N64 and Gamecube sold significantly less than SNES and NES
-Sega CD, 32X, Nomad, Game Gear, Saturn, Megajet, Pico, TeraDrive, and Dreamcast all failed to break 12 million units sold, even after Genesis sold 35 million
-Sony Pocketstation and PSX failed horribly
-PSP, while it has sold well, is not the powerhouse that previous Sony consoles were
-Atari 2600 sold over 30 million units. 5800, 7200, Jaguar, and Lynx proceeded to fail miserably

You can't just assume people will buy a PS3 later just because a lot of them bought PS1s and PS2s. If that logic worked, then SEGA and Atari would still be making consoles and Nintendo would never have fallen from its dominant market position.

The situation is completely different though. Casuals are the biggest component of the market. Most casuals want a ps3 and will buy one after a price drop. Its just the price that scares em away.

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#6 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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I'm sorry but SW emulation of anything sucks. 60% compatible, what about those games I want to play that are in 40%. That is unacceptable. I have alot of PS2 games that I still want to play. X360 SW B/C is crap, any SWemulator is crap don't let the marketing people fool you. Every SW emulator ever written has some degree of in compatibility. XYZVector

Thats why you should get the 60gb NOW and have hardware emulation;)

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#7 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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lol

And buy it! You need a ps2 so why not get a ps1 and ps3 in the same deal? Also, the new 80gb one doesnt have the ps2 chips and I think it doesnt emulate all ps2 games properly while the 60gb one does so buy the 60gb one quickly before they run out and then you have to buy a ps2 and then a pricier ps3 later on if you want.

Can anyone just confirm whether or not the 80gb one can play all ps2 and ps1 games properly through software emulation or is it retarded selected games like 360s BC?

asdasd

Its software emulation in the 80 gig, but it isnt crud like the 360s BC. It has like 50% (That was at firmware 1.6, were on 1.9 now. Dont know the % thats playable at 1.9) of the PS2 library playable without any problems (Thats like 1500 games) It gets better with every firmware update too

The firmware update surely added more BC right? Also do they select what games are playable through the SW emulation or do they just randomly input some code or something and plays random games or somethign:P

My ps2 broke down on me a while back and I want to get a ps3 later on, not now but the 60gb will be prolly out of production when i get a ps3(some time around mgs4s release) and I just want to have a proper ps2 BC:P

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#8 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Lemmings have Splinter Cell conviction. MGS is amazing but Splinter Cell is a cool series too.Metroid_Time

Ive played Splinter Cell and think its very boring. Im not just saying that because im a hardcore mgs fan but it just is really boring. It doesnt appeal to me at all. MGS is a lot better to me, not only in gameplay but the epic storyline.

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#9 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="Sup11722"][QUOTE="XYZVector"]

My PS2 just died, now normally I wouldn't consider a PS3, however I know eventually in the future I was going to buy one, however my PS2 is dead, and I will be out a 129.00 if I buy a new one. Now if I buy a PS3 it's 499.99 however right now the more expensive one has the hardware support for PS2 games, and so It would negate my need to purchase a PS2.

Plus in a few weeks-months the PS3 will be going up. There is no way I will pay 599.99 for a console, I don't even really want to pay 499.99 for a console, but considering the PS2's death it might be worth wild to buy the PS3 now. Instead of buying a PS2 then eventually buying a PS3..

I don't know I'm torn I think I will sleep on it.

XYZVector

Fall into The Darkness Yes Yes Buy it Let your greed consume u

I'm trying to fight it. However I do have to buy a PS2 tommrow, just bought God of War 2 today. So I have to play it. It's really not even a choice look what it's being played on.

I got to play it for 30 minutes, then the video just died. I hadit for6 years, it's been a good PS2...

PS2 RIP you will be missed...

lol

And buy it! You need a ps2 so why not get a ps1 and ps3 in the same deal? Also, the new 80gb one doesnt have the ps2 chips and I think it doesnt emulate all ps2 games properly while the 60gb one does so buy the 60gb one quickly before they run out and then you have to buy a ps2 and then a pricier ps3 later on if you want.

Can anyone just confirm whether or not the 80gb one can play all ps2 and ps1 games properly through software emulation or is it retarded selected games like 360s BC?

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#10 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Meh

The first one rocked, but it has been downhill from there.

You cows can keep it.

-Karmum-

Now your in denial.