10 cars on one track compared with a full game with hundreds of cars on tens of tracks? Please... leave your poor flamebait checked at the door before you come in next time, okay?foxhound_fox

Forza is boring. The game has no sense of speed an doesn't feel like a driving game.

Gran Turismo HD is the best demo I played in a long time. The graphics are amazing and the sense of speed is up a notch. Even though the backgrounds are considered beta they look great. Actual polygon people moving around. But the best thing about it is the sense of speed and with widescreen it just improves field of view from previous GT games so much.

I played Forza Motorsport for 30 minutes an thats it and I had it for 3 years. GT HD demo I played for 2-3 hours...still trying to get better times for rankings. Its amazing.

My X360 froze and I did a reset. System still didnt work so I turned off console an let it cool down. Fortunately it still runs. The system is unreliable an MS knows this, hence my 3 month warranty. But MS increase warranty to a year.

The fans are loud, hence spinning to fast. Seems to collect dust too much. The last gen dvd drive spins to fast increasing wear an tear faster. The large power brick is located outside far away from the console yet the system still overheats. This is a poorly built system..and I dont want to mention no futurproofing whatsoever thats another topic.

headset ($20 retail), wireless contoller ($50 retail), Hard Drive ($100 retail), 5 one-month XBL free trials ($40 retail), ethernet cable ($20 retail), Component Cables ($40 retail)

$270 if you bought it all seperately

do i need to explain?
hockeyruler12

Dont tell me 20 gb is $100. I can upgrade PS3 to 200 gb for less than that.

20gb hd, component cables, headset, ethernet cable does not even equal $50. MS obviously puts premium prices on the accessories an its obviously a total rip to the consumer.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Vicious_T"]

With only 20 gb HD, component cables (this is pathetic if you have HDTV with hdmi), wireless controller (Is that a joke) thats it? I don't see where the extra $100 comes from. And we all know the X360 core system is a joke in itself.

Nugtoka

How is anyone falling for it. Digital is the future..and digital transfer rates are so much faster than analog. Hdmi is the future..accept it. 

[QUOTE="Vicious_T"]

With only 20 gb HD, component cables (this is pathetic if you have HDTV with hdmi), wireless controller (Is that a joke) thats it? I don't see where the extra $100 comes from. And we all know the X360 core system is a joke in itself.

WilliamRLBaker

Hdmi = 1 plug. Component at least 3.

Hdmi = digital. Component is analog.

Hdmi = quality of materials not as important as Component. You still get excellent video with cheap hdmi connections, not so with cheap component connections.

I have never seen component offer 1080p anywhere. I am sure its possible but tell me what HDTV offers that and what console or disc player offers that. X360 HD-DVD add on only can get 1080p through vga. And there are no games that are native 1080p on X360. So tell me where I can see 1080p through component cables. And no upscaled is not the same. I be a fool to think my Samsung dvd player upconverts dvd movies to 720p. Its a trick nothing more.