Aaron Greenberg needs to realize that this gen is not over yet, it far from over... therefore nobody won anything yet. Greenberg mentioned that Sony came out with empty promises at the beginning of the gen, however Sony is still on the road to fulfill those promises. He can argue this statement after the gen is over. He can prove those valid points he mentioned like where are the full 1080p games; however, he cannot prove those until the Seventh generation era of gaming is over.

What will his argument will be if Sony put on table "here is our full 1080p HD games, where are MS 1080p games"- his argument will be "It took long enough." Well that not the point here, the point is Sony still fulfill those promises this gen rather than doing nothing. Greenberg need to think what is his competition ahead of himself rather than thinking about Sony past... because Sony is coming strongly in these upcoming years... and sales are increasing.

Where is his answer to the upcoming 100,000 MGS4 PS3 Bundles just for Japan, Which 360 game will out do this in Japan. Greenberg need to realize his competition is just not in USA... it is worldwide, Sony is right on MS tail, and 5 million consoles isn't jack. Guerilla and Sony promised those KillZone 2 visuals and they are top of it... it do not matter if it coming February 2009... it about fulfilling those promises like Greenberg mentioned and Sony is doing this before this gen is over.

It all about sales according to the competition and I believe Sony have no problem doing that... and before this gen is over, it will MS who will be trailing Sony.

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MGS4 will be a good good thing for ps3 but honestly it will be the only ELITE game that causes any attention. Microsoft has a great eye for great NEW franshises. Halo/Gears/bioshock/splinter cell. they knew these games were the truimp card for there success. Sony seems to not have thee eye anymore for new oringial ELITE game franshises that sell outragiously.

Honestly this generation will end like last year. THat being the ps2 was out first, had a bigger library, brand name, future success. Now the 360 is out first, has the bigger library, Microsfts xbox has become a houshold known product and im afraid simply the head start is all the 360 needs.

The 360 just has too many AAA system sellers with that siad i fail too see how just MGS4 or RFOM2 or OMG ILL mention it, killzone2.

just like microsoft promised toystory graphics with xbox?stereointegrity

Look THey were somewhat close to comparision. I think Ninja Giaden looked amazing and you could say toystory like! Same with a few more!

[QUOTE="Tykain"][QUOTE="Vulcan110"][QUOTE="Tykain"]

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"]This man ownd every every hardcore sony fan whitch the likes they wont ever recover or convert! Too bad i say they simply dont understand that everything microsoft touches turns to gold and they know how to run a buisness as it seems. There is no company or man and EVEN some countrys that would, could not touch them! This includes sony and nintendo!Vulcan110

I can't help but to laugh at that comment. Just out of curiosity, do you have Microsoft posters all over your room and 5 times each day you bow down to Bill gates in prayer ? I can imagine you kneeled down raising your hands up and down saying 'Glory to my load almighty Bill Gates'

Look. Did i not speak the truth when i said microsoft turns everything they touch into gold? They succeed at everything they do. There company is so large there is always a way! I mean after the years micro entered the indusrty they have launched the best quality system last generation even though it clearly sold almost 2 years after. They have also lauched a great system this generation with a few minor flaws that were severly compensated. They obviously know sony is the target not nintendo! I can try to have a intlegent conversation with you but ill only try once!

As it is right now Microsoft is heading for a 3rd place, they already are way behind Nintendo (And so is Sony) and Sony is catching up despite Microsoft 1 year head start. I fail to see how that translate to no company could compete with them.

It comes to sales i know. Its hard to argue with that as a serious xbox fan. I simply say that to ME the xbox360 and ps3 are the systems to own if you know anything about gaming. Its like a voter who votes becuase there women or black therfor supporting something inferior because they can and its the easiest choice becuase its also cheapest!

Do kids who entice there parents to buy a ninty control what +17 think real games should be like? Sales scream this but where are the sales comming from. If it were not for Xbox and sony i would not ever touch consoles agian! We all like mario and ZElda and prolly wont never not! Its so drastic of a controller change i dont see anyone who knows anything about gaming or a gamer that enjoys adult themed games if purchased a Wii, spend more time on it that 360 or ps3! Just wanted to make sure you seen what i replyed too bro!

So a sony Employee should return the favor and say how many consoles have you witness enter the shop. And if your console is so much better why does it break so much more then the PS3?Nolan16

sigh, extended warrentys, free repairs, sometimes free consoles! How is this not severly compensated?

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"][QUOTE="Tykain"]

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"]This man ownd every every hardcore sony fan whitch the likes they wont ever recover or convert! Too bad i say they simply dont understand that everything microsoft touches turns to gold and they know how to run a buisness as it seems. There is no company or man and EVEN some countrys that would, could not touch them! This includes sony and nintendo!Tykain

I can't help but to laugh at that comment. Just out of curiosity, do you have Microsoft posters all over your room and 5 times each day you bow down to Bill gates in prayer ? I can imagine you kneeled down raising your hands up and down saying 'Glory to my load almighty Bill Gates'

Look. Did i not speak the truth when i said microsoft turns everything they touch into gold? They succeed at everything they do. There company is so large there is always a way! I mean after the years micro entered the indusrty they have launched the best quality system last generation even though it clearly sold almost 2 years after. They have also lauched a great system this generation with a few minor flaws that were severly compensated. They obviously know sony is the target not nintendo! I can try to have a intlegent conversation with you but ill only try once!

As it is right now Microsoft is heading for a 3rd place, they already are way behind Nintendo (And so is Sony) and Sony is catching up despite Microsoft 1 year head start. I fail to see how that translate to no company could compete with them.

It comes to sales i know. Its hard to argue with that as a serious xbox fan. I simply say that to ME the xbox360 and ps3 are the systems to own if you know anything about gaming. Its like a voter who votes becuase there women or black therfor supporting something inferior because they can and its the easiest choice becuase its also cheapest!

Do kids who entice there parents to buy a ninty control what +17 think real games should be like? Sales scream this but where are the sales comming from. If it were not for Xbox and sony i would not ever touch consoles agian! We all like mario and ZElda and prolly wont never not! Its so drastic of a controller change i dont see anyone who knows anything about gaming or a gamer that enjoys adult themed games if purchased a Wii, spend more time on it that 360 or ps3!

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Tykain"]

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"]This man ownd every every hardcore sony fan whitch the likes they wont ever recover or convert! Too bad i say they simply dont understand that everything microsoft touches turns to gold and they know how to run a buisness as it seems. There is no company or man and EVEN some countrys that would, could not touch them! This includes sony and nintendo!Tykain

I can't help but to laugh at that comment. Just out of curiosity, do you have Microsoft posters all over your room and 5 times each day you bow down to Bill gates in prayer ? I can imagine you kneeled down raising your hands up and down saying 'Glory to my load almighty Bill Gates'

Maybe you should dispute what Aarong Greenberg had to say. You know we are still waiting for someone to actually do it....

There is some truth to what he said, it's just it's way over-exagerated and made himself sound like a fanboy rather than someone saying something inteligent. But there is some truth in it, that i certainly wont deny.

My bro got a xbox and it has a HDMI connection. What is it? His disc tray is also a normal looking one with the original U shaped. MY first xbox didnt have this it got messed up from a magnent they replaced it for free btw, and my new ones disc tay has perposly placed little holes on it when you open them. Also my new console does not have HDMI?

If anyone helps ill be really thankfull i have always wondered this!

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"][QUOTE="EPaul"]

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"]So far the topic is sony is counter thinking everything they are doing so much its causing no progression. While Miscrosft continues too remain king this genertaion. Blackbond

Umm.. you do know the Wii is the Market Leader, right?

As far as a real controler and a real selection of HIGH quality games, with the biggest library i dont care how many clueless parrents buy a Wii because they know the name witht he indusrty. There are alot more kids than middle aged and teens who play games id say. As far as what real games that simply kick @@@ such as halo3, gears, boishock, third party titles and the greatest online services know too man imo!

So by you're logic only Hermits are real gamers. Nice job :roll:

The xbox360 has what i personally look for in my console. Alot do the same!

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"][QUOTE="EPaul"]

[QUOTE="Vulcan110"]So far the topic is sony is counter thinking everything they are doing so much its causing no progression. While Miscrosft continues too remain king this genertaion. EPaul

Umm.. you do know the Wii is the Market Leader, right?

As far as a real controler and a real selection of HIGH quality games, with the biggest library i dont care how many clueless parrents buy a Wii because they know the name witht he indusrty. There are alot more kids than middle aged and teens who play games id say. As far as what real games that simply kick @@@ such as halo3, gears, boishock, third party titles and the greatest online services know too man imo!

I guess SMG GOTY 07, MP3 and Brawl are not "real games" and halo , gears and bioshock can be played on pc

Very good reply, my personal choice is with a conrtoller if i dont play with one and its not a strategy game then its just wierd uncomfortable for me. Most people will agree, Those game you mentioned are good yes. I have this idea that nintendo Wii is not even a real system because of the drastic changes in the controller. The sales yes, but as i said they are mostly parents who know nothing of the other systems and there COMPUTER like functionality!