@McStrongfast:

“Anita Sarkeesian is doing criticism, she is not dictating or forcing anything. You are free to disagree, criticize back. You are free to not listen. You are free to listen and consider. Disagree with some parts, consider others”

My problem with this statement is that she has been proven, time and time again, that she is either a liar (e.g. the video where she says that she doesn’t even enjoy video games; here awful ‘logical’ conclusions) or a fraud (stealing LP footage without proper citation; not fulfilling her promise to have finished all of the videos a year ago)

She HAS been criticized, and yet the games media doesn’t bring it up – instead of saying that she makes easily identifiable poor conclusions, manipulates statistics to push her views (I remember her saying in one of the vids that sexual objectification is intimately linked to violence, and will inevitably lead to it, later leading to her citing “every 9 seconds a woman is assaulted in the USA because rape culture”), the games media states that her videos are “critically acclaimed”.

I’m sorry, but any video series that removes likes and comments by default is not “critically acclaimed” - the Tyrion Lannister quote about 'cutting out a man's tongue' very much comes to mind

It annoys me when Anita is seen as some great figure or ambassador in gaming, but as soon as Jack Thompson is mentioned people call him an idiot – their arguments and logical connections are almost identical, except she replaced ‘violence’ with ‘sexism’ and gets a pass because we are allowed to criticise politicians, but aren't allowed to criticise 'feminists'

True. If you look at where threats/harassment/insults have come from on both sides, there is a fairly clear difference. On pro-GG side, of the major players (people "with faces" like Milo, Baldwin, Sommers, IA, TB, etc) none of them have been slandering, insulting or harassing people. The most has been IA uses swear words and Baldwin making somewhat humorous pics. They have been mostly making clear, logical points and asking for an open debate. The threats and harassment have come from anonymous trolls, some of whom don't even use gamergate in their attacks (the anti-GG side just assumes that they must be affiliated)

In contrast to this, the anti-GG side's major players (again, people "with faces") have been insulting people. Leigh Alexander's tweets; the 'Gamers are Dead' articles; Matt "weaponized minorities" Lees; Devin "gamers are worse than ISIS and the KKK" Faraci; Alex Liftshitz's tweets calling anyone who plays games "garbage"; Sarkeesian and McIntosh calling gamergaters "sociopaths" and supporters of the patriarchy; Brianna Wu using sockpuppet accounts to mock gamers and lying to promote herself.

But don't worry, pro-GG are only filled with white cis-male pieces of sh*t that hate and assault women. That's what the media told me!

@Revan_911 said:

This is a list of partners that was on the Gawker page, it's not removed but I can find an achive If you don't believe me. Mercedes Benz was definitely a partner, not sure if it still is. And something definately happened at Gawker, because they were pleading, apologizing and a high up at gawker came on twitter to discuss with GG people

from my understanding, the "apologies" were anything but. The guy who made the bullying tweets didn't made a genuine apology (its was just because of advertisers pulling out)He said "I meant what I wrote" and refering to gamergate: "Making a silly tweet about bullying during National Anti-Bullying Month gave a bunch of people with no clear agenda besides generating chaos a lot of easy ammunition" - gamergate has a clear agenda/goal, to say otherwise is to ignore the evidence

http://jimromenesko.com/2014/10/17/gawker-memo-i-dont-want-to-tell-you-what-to-tweet-but/

and he himself confirmed the emails as true

https://twitter.com/joeljohnson/status/523667806592987136

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If these people expect to call themselves games "journalists," then they should at least try and keep their personal biases in check enough to provide a more objective opinion, or find someone who can. There's already enough suspicion surrounding "games journalism" prior to any of these events. (i.e. the rumored publisher review payoffs, favoritism, etc.)

Funny how folks like you started to suddenly open their eyes during this gamergate crap, but when similar shit happened several years ago, no one seemed to care.

Example: Dean Takahashi: Halo 3 press kit "nothing less than a bribe"

I mean - shitload of fucking perfect 10 scores.

Gamergate is blown over proportions, deals with irrelevant crap and the movement advocates should ask themselves what the **** did they do 10 years (or so) ago. All of those gamergate fanatics that fight for ethics and integrity in gaming journalism will find themselves together in the waiting line for a new Halo/Gears of War/whatever, high fiving each other afterwards when the mentioned titles get perfect scores (yet again) on the every possible gaming website gamergate fights against.

Hypocrisy at its best.

when that shit happened, our media reported on it. When the Zoe thing happened the media kept silent and then articles like this one popped up because 4chan users that hated Zoe started trolling with doxxing and threats: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/Gamers_dont_have_to_be_your_audience_Gamers_are_over.php

They made their audience the enemy. They took a very large group and dumped us all together with the crazies. Over 14 articles from different websites were published with the same narrative in 24 hours, what many perceived as an attack to our culture and a breach of ethics to push an agenda. The social justice agenda that is about censoring games because they are either too violent or too sexual and silencing opinions.

You really have no idea the insane amount of people that has been banned from Kotaku, Neogaf, Polygon, Gamasutra and even fucking 4chan in the last couple of months for having a different opinion. Not for being aggressive or trolling but just for having a different opinion. Did you know Neogaf banned Boogie2988 for life? And for what? Go do a google search about why they did that but did not do the same with another user called "Lime" for being a racist piece of shit.

These mofos brought this to themselves, which is why people are only focused in attacking those sites and not the likes of Gamespot or IGN.

Yeah, I follow Boogie on Twitter and saw his statements regarding the shit that happened to him. I've also read things about Leigh Alexander and she is one person in this industry I really can't stand. Not just in the midst of this gamergate crap, but way before. Being an arrogant and egocentric prick at that level and yet letting her have a voice of opinion and influence at one of the most prominent gaming websites, is beyond my comprehension.

Gaming industry is corrupt. That is a fact. But it baffles me how people didn't raise their voice way before. Before corruption and conspiracy in this industry had its name. In my opinion, corruption regarding game reviews and the flood of "10" scores when some AAA title gets released should have greater emphasis among the "fighters for righteousness" than gamergate. Because no matter what people say reviews are just "opinions" and "10" is just a number, that's where the real money is and that's where the real revenue for publisher comes from. You call yourself a professional. A person with ethics and integrity. A goddamn journalist. A flood of "tens" from a worrying high number of gaming websites just isn't right.

We know the industry is full of nepotism, it always has been. This time is different though, never before has the gaming media attacked it's own consumer base using claims of sexism, racism and many other 'ism's to cover it's own failings. This whole thing has been brought upon 'professional' gaming writers (not using the 'j' word to describe those who obviously aren't) by themselves.

Games such as Halo 3 and TLoU got most of their massive review scores from officially sponsored websites, obviously those sites are going to be biased towards exclusive games for the system they are paid to focus on. There is nothing that can be done to stop PlayStation Lifestyle from writing stuff like this for TLoU

"100 It’s a hallmark of excellence in writing, design, and performance. Naughty Dog and Sony not only have a system seller on their hands, but a game that’ll define an entire console generation—a true classic that’ll be talked about and fondly regarded for years to come."

I don't think anyone would actually expect to see anything else from them, especially not something objective anyway.

I'm not talking only about officially sponsored websites. Have you seen the insane amount of "100" scores for Halo 3 on Metacritic? Sure, Metacritic translates 5/5 as 100, but... well, what the hell... Here it is:

Imho, that's way, way too much and I can see bribe/bias/corruption/whatever written all over those web sites. How can we say, "oh it's just an opinion" or "oh, it's just a number"? How can gaming community simply accept THAT, which is a common practice with AAA titles? How can't gaming community see that as a HUGE FUCKING problem but, get completely mental about things that happened around gamergate?

That's what I simply don't understand.

Gaming did see it as a problem, but how many news outlets said anything about it?? i would think not a lot. Media sites, through their attacks and denial of gamergate, brought attention to it - whilst they didn't bring attention to these review scores.

You talk about Halo 3 (which got 20 scores of 100) whilst Last of Us has 42 scores of 100! 42!!!! If you think that Halo 3's reviews were bought, then Sony must have spent more money buying reveiwers than ND spent making the game

Instead, people discussed it privately in forums and such and so the 'movement' never went anywhere - because they were able to just talk about it and there were no issues or problems in discussing it

In terms of gamergate and the Quinn thing, one of the the MAIN reasons the movement became as big as it did was because instead of letting people "just talk about it", the forums and Reddit decided "we will not let you even THINK about discussing it" and we ended up with over 25,000 deleted comments on TB's one thread, not to mention all the other threads that dicsussed it getting shut down by mods

People hate corruption, but what they hate MORE is when people tell them they can't talk about corruption - that is what happened with gamergate, and what DIDN'T happen with Halo 3 reviews

@ChubbyGuy40:

im curious but what "historical fact" made it that medieval europe was not filled with a predominately white population??

The whole Ubisoft thing was interesting. Ubisoft's reasoning of why there were no female playable chracters was ultimately genuine, in my opinion, but they were really sh*t at communicating it properly.

People accused Ubisoft of not be PC or progressive or anti-women when the real accusation should have been that they were just lazy. They said it would cost them more to put it in. Guess what? It would have cost them more

I guess you could make it into a David Cage esque 'game', so making Bioshock an interactive movie.

However, the problem there is that it would make it very niche, and most people would probably not buy it then.

Having it as a FPS makes it more accesible to a wider audience, and so more likely to produce fans of the series.

Like you said, the gameplay is good enough to have fun with, and the Plasmids/Vigors give it a unique element. Also, the story seperates Bioshock from the likes of COD or Battlefield.

To be honest, I really have no idea whether Infinite could work as a movie/book. But in another universe, it is!

You need to downlaod it from the in-game 'season pass' store
, and NOT from the xbox live marketplace

Dont forget that a lot of stores are doing a trade in thing, whereby you can trade in the current gen version for the next gen version when it launches, for a price. Fortunately that price is simply the gap between current and next gen versions (eg. for the uk its £10 to upgrade, and as next gen titles are selling for £50 there isn't really any problem)

I was planning to buy a 120gb hard drive and transfer the data from my 20gb one onto it.

The transfer kit page on xbox.com says that I need to own an Elite to order a free kit.

Is there anywhere else that I can get a transfer kit?

Do i need an Elite to transfer data?

Help appreciated