Beautiful as expected. Polyphony knows their lighting.

But I'd expect some bullshot backlash since every Forza3 thread was attacked by PS3 fanboys not to mention the bitter tears they're drowning the Forza3 demo threads with. But this is System Wars.

I knew we would finally get a release date at TGS I was just hoping it was this year....jakarai

If you'd only not created about 200 threads about BS release date rumors, you might have spared half the people on this board this dissapointment, including yourself.

[QUOTE="Wubba"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

- It doesn't matter whether or not they talk about it during TGS, because in the end, all of those features have been confirmed to be in the game. They've already revelaed Nascar, Rally, online trading, day/night, and dynamic weather. They could elaborate more on it before the game releases.

- When you say "past games", do you mean *past racing sims*, or *past Gran Turismo games*?

- We've seen Youtube replay uploading before? New physics, Damage, Movable objects on track, hybrid and electric cars properly simulated? Open Lobby, Text/Voice Chat, Private Room, Online Photo Album, Online Replay Album? We've seen all of this stuff in a Gran Turismo game before? No. That's why they are unveiling it now.

Episode_Eve

Please provide links to these confirmations you speak of. And it's not like KY has never lied to us before about features that didn't make it into previous GT games. :roll:

- In an interview with GamesRadar KY said GT5 will have the same features as GTPSP (online car trading being the only standout).

- Weather and night races

- If the features announced are excluded, then they should be held accountable for it. As of now, we have to go by their word and what's been shown so far.

Yes, I remember that interview. I applaud your glass half-full attitude, but I've been there too many times seeing KY breaking promises to the GT community from GT5P damage patches, GT4 online, track editor, missing car manufacturers, etc to believe him when it comes to feature lists and release dates. Sorry, for me the honeymoon is over.

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If they are having a conference about something as important as a GT5 release date... wouldn't you think they would outline those worthy features (that haven't, for the most part, been in previous iterations) as a selling point? Why would they just go over the mundane stuff we've seen in past games?

Episode_Eve

- It doesn't matter whether or not they talk about it during TGS, because in the end, all of those features have been confirmed to be in the game. They've already revelaed Nascar, Rally, online trading, day/night, and dynamic weather. They could elaborate more on it before the game releases.

- When you say "past games", do you mean *past racing sims*, or *past Gran Turismo games*?

- We've seen Youtube replay uploading before? New physics, Damage, Movable objects on track, hybrid and electric cars properly simulated? Open Lobby, Text/Voice Chat, Private Room, Online Photo Album, Online Replay Album? We've seen all of this stuff in a Gran Turismo game before? No. That's why they are unveiling it now.

Please provide links to these confirmations you speak of. And it's not like KY has never lied to us before about features that didn't make it into previous GT games. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]I don't see how anything can be determined a *killer* based off of minimal text information. I'm assuming Polyphony promised you Gran Turismo 5 would kill Forza?Episode_Eve

System Wars: Serious business.

It's just hyperbole. After years of talk of how GT5 was going to blow the doors off of Forza (pun!) with features like truly realistic damage, 90+ unique tracks, a track editor, real-time weather patterns, etc., it's hard not to be underwhelmed by the new information.

You still believe that all those features will make it into GT5? Obviously you haven't followed Polyphony's method of operation over the last ten years. Dynamic weather & day/night cycles will not be in GT5. Now I sincerely hope to be proved wrong, but I'd bet against it. Which leaves us with the inclusion of WRC and Nascar, both sweet additions, but they've confirmed that there will be 20 environments and 70 tracks. Pretty sure that limited environment list doesn't leave room for many if any actual Nascar and WRC tracks...so what does the inclusion of those really add?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Wow... earlier than I expected... yet far later than GT fanboys were expecting. The 20 locations/70 tracks thing stumps me a little... wasn't there supposed to be like 100 different tracks? I guess the Polyphony practice of making 4 different variations of the same track still goes strong in their development cycle. It seems like this game is just going to be GT4 with fancier graphics (once again), cosmetic damage and some new cars.

Rikusaki

In Japan. The rest of us get to wait a few months at best, holiday 2010 more likely. KY spoke of a simultaneous world-wide launch...not suprised he lied yet again.

Are they every going to confirm dynamic weather and night cycles for GT5?

thelastguy

Knowing KY, I'd bet that dynamic weather is definitely out. At best there might be some tracks that are static in their weather, that is it's always raining, but I'd bet against that as well. Real time day night cycles or even time of day settings? I'd bet against that too. Though I'd think there'd be some night tracks that are always dark.

Can't say I'm suprised. Japan gets it March 2010, the rest of us a few months later as history shows. They better have some great features they're holding close to their chest, because world map, private lobbies, voice chat and car dealer aren't exactly bullet point worthy.

Wow, tough crowd. I thought it looked comparable to Uncharted 2, from what little I've seen of both. But I assume we were seeing the PC version. Gameplay looked stiff, but interesting.

Every single one of those screens are bullshots. You can't find a single aliased edge on any of them. I've seen 720p WMV footage downloaded off of Forza's website and you can clearly see aliasing, quite a bit of it. Those screens aren't even indicative of anything the Xbox 360 could render with 30 FPS, let alone 60 FPS.Brownesque

Who gives a flying donkey about complaining about those screenshots at this moment. That video is the absolute hit. Anyone unimpressed with that is just a hater. Gotta go watch again on my Xbox.