If you have an AGP, its a 10. For AGP, it doesnt get better than that.

However, the newer games will likely choke that PC. I have a Dell XPS Gen2 with a P4EE, 2GB of RAM and the X1950Pro. BF2 runs good at 1600x1050. I haven't tried Oblivion or Bioshock, but I suspect I will have to turn down the details a lot to get them to run smooth. And Crysis, Unreal, etc.? Doubtful. What resolution do you want to run at? If its low and you turn off some of the detail, it may run well enough to enjoy. Depends on how picky you are. :)

In your case it would be "A person who fails to practice what they preach". The fact that you're acting high and mighty, thinking you're some kind of genius because you bought a Dell is hilarious and such a contradiction, I mean damn ONLY YOU would buy that overpriced hunk of metal and be proud of it.K_r_a_u_s_e_r

No, Krauser, YOU are the one adscribing that behavior to me simply for using a proper adjective. And yes, I am very proud of my PC and what I can do with it. It seems to me that your hostility is revealing a bit of latent jealousy. Control yourself man, its embarassing....

Just that you overpaid for a computer that will be soon replaced by something much better.crazycolt1234

Ok, so what is the difference between overpaying and paying just right for a computer that will be soon replaced by something much better? The $1,500-$2000 difference?

Well, since the original poster was talking about WORTH, then the question becomes was it worth spending an extra $1500-$2000 for the H2C? That depends, doesn't it? It depends on how much you value your time, in how much you want to get involved in building a computer, how much time you want to spend fixing problems down the road, etc. Some people do not value their time and convenience as much as others. I was looking for a PC that I could take out and use right of the box, play every single game in my house at 2560x1600 at well over 60fps, break the 17K mark in 3DMark06, and if it ever breaks, make a single phone call and make it someone else's problem for the next four years.

I got what I was looking for, so for ME, it was worth it. :)

EDIT: Please stop using sophisticated words like you're some genius, it makes you look like a hypocrite, you bought a Dell in fact. :lol:K_r_a_u_s_e_r

So making proper use of the english language makes me a genius? Thanks. You obviously have very low standards.

What does hypocrite mean?

What he means is that soon, there will be upgrades that will be greatly better than your Dell rig while being much cheaper. Thus, showing your fault in buying dell.crazycolt1234

There is always going to be something better around the corner, no matter WHAT you buy. What is your point, exactly?

Well, it probably depends on what you're aiming for. I just bought the tower. Mine was all about VALUE: E6750, 4GB RAM, 8800 GTS 320mb for about $1100 (all parts from Newegg). ... It sounds like you guys are building some sort of sick monstrosity over there, so you're case might be different... But what you're building over there is pretty disgusting. I can think of a whole bunch of non-PC related things I'd like to do with an extra $5000... phan1

You make an excellent point, and very relevant to the ORIGINAL post that started this thread. Is it worth it to YOU??? Each person is different, and their idea of "worth" is different. I dont mind people trying to save a buck, and am not sure why some mind others spending it.

Thank you for your relevant and non-hyperbolic post...

First off, you really need to stop using the word "hyperbole"...you sound like a kid who just found out the definition of a sophisticated-sounding word, and decided to start using it every single time you speak. All you really need to say is that it's a dramatic exaggeration to say that Dell XPS's cost twice as much as an equal quality home built PC.SilentFireX

Yourattempt to regulate my use of the English languageis not necessary or appreciated. Try again.

Second, there's really no point in spending EIGHT THOUSAND dollars, when there's new hardware coming out every day, and the God-like build that you've had made by Dell will soon be rendered obselete by a much cheaper system.SilentFireX

No point for YOU, perhaps. Doesnt mean there is a point for other people. I am not one to wait forever for "the next big thing". When I decide to buy, I buy, and enjoy it without fretting about what is around the corner.

And rendered obsolete "soon"? Define obsolete. For me, obsolete is when I can't get over 30fps in my favorite game. How "soon" do you think that will happen with this Dell rig? :)

Like everyone else is saying, build it yourself. I built mine, and the Dell equivalent is literally twice as much more. Think you want to do some research, as top-notch parts are hardly ever worth it. No value in getting top-notch parts IMO.phan1

I think you didnt read the post above yours carefully. "Literally twice" is an inaccurate exaggeration. By the time you add all the missing parts and warranty, and if you luck out with the regular discounts Dell provides, you are looking at 15-20% more, tops. You have to compare APPLES to APPLES.

Listen, no one is arguing that Dell XPS is CHEAPER than buying it yourself. However, its not DOUBLE either. If someone chooses to build themselves, let them choose after understanding the FACTS without having to embellish them with hyperbole. There are factors OTHER than price than come into play when people say its "worth" it to them or not. No need to muddy the waters with inaccurate statements.

Just my $.02...

Good, we are up to $4410 now. If we were just to add keyboard, mouse, OS, anti-virus, X-Fi sound card, TV tuner, a couple of Raptors in RAID instead of that cheap $350GB hard drive combo, a couple of DVD drives (one +/- RW), card reader, and four years of onsite warranty with parts and labor, what does that come out to?

No, not $8000. But not HALF.

Look up hyperbole in Google.

$8000 huh? How 'bout I build you a dell equivelent that 2x as fast and you pay me $5000 labor instead?Cracker__Jack

I love the hyperbole. Never ceases to amaze me. So, for $3,000 you can build me an equivalent that will do 35,600 3DMark 06 with a 30" LCD and 1.8TB of disk space? Or what exactly do you mean by "equivalent"? Does that mean you will start cutting corners to bring the price down? And will you come to my house and fix it for free, parts and labor, for the next 4 years?

I didn't think so.... :)