I'm an older gamer who has owned many different platforms. I am loyal to no platform or company name. I go with whatever console gives me the best game experience of that generation. I currently own a wii (haven't played it in forever) and a xbox 360. My playstation 3 got the YLOD so never bothered to get that fixed. (last game completed on my ps3 was uncharted 3) As the current generation goes I would say I enjoyed the xbox 360 more then any other. Yes pay to play online sucks and yes the xbox brand lacks exclusives. In saying that xbox live is a great experience and I have had a blast playing games like forza horizon as of late. The ps3 by far had the best exclusives and I felt it was a good console that never matched it's potential. The Wii has caused me to lose tons of respect for nintendo. I've owned every single Nintendo platform since the nes and I honestly believe Wii will be my last nintendo purchase. Next Generation Thoughts: Durango: Too many rumors and speculation to comment. If it indeed does block used games and needs a constant online connection then I will not be getting this. As I said too many rumors and bs to really know what microsoft is doing. PS4: I got to say I am really impressed with what I have seen. Powerful hardware with gamers in mind seems like a great combination. Really impressed with how Sony is approaching the new generation. WIIU: (really dumb name) Nintendo is pretty much dead to me. Out of date hardware, dinosaur network for online gaming, lackluster games up to this point. I have 0 interested in buying another mario, zelda, and whatever franchise they choose to remake machine. Very little 3r party support to fill in the gaps. I really wish I could say that the WiiU will be a failure but it's not going to be. Once another Mario or Zelda game comes out the nintendo fans are going to be soiling theirselves to buy a WiiU. I'm sure the WiiU will sell a decent amount of units. Too bad Nintendo's originality and hardcore mentality left when Yamaouchi retired. So hello everyone and look forward to debates on system wars.gamevet77

Bioshock Infinite sucks

1.Nintendo winning another Gen

never

2.Blizzard making a non-AAA game

2012

3.Starcraft 2 coming out

2010

4.Duke Nukem Forever releasing

2011

5.G4 getting bankrupt

2012

I go with choice number 5

You are wrong

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

 

I am not saying Spec Ops should be called the greatest game ever cause Infinite is. The point is why is one rated so highly over another if they are so similar in what they do well and fail

AdrianWerner

But that much better?

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="ryangcnx-2"]

Except that one is a Fantasy game while the other is a Military/Army game. 2 completely different settings. 

For example, one of my favorite games this gen is Dragon Age Origins. Say they made, Spec Ops like Origins. Story Driven, a simlar RPG battle and leveling system but kept the whole military aspect of it and it's story. I would still be drawn way more to Dragon Age due to it's fantasy setting. 

I can't speak for all gamers as that is my opinion, but it's why I think Infinite is getting more attention.

ryangcnx-2

So your argument is fantasy is inherently better than non fantasy? Thats dumb

No it's not dumb, I hate anything Military like. It's an instant dislike for me if it has to do with Marines, Army, Navy and so forth. There are many other gamers out there who dislike the military setting too and possibly one of the many reasons why bioshock gets more attention. Fantasy and Sci-Fi are my thing, and instantly interest me way way more. 

This is probably the worst argument I have ever heard. I think you are indicative of the average Bioshock fans intelligence

 Are system owners supposed to ignore a fault like short-game length

Zassimick

Short length is not inherently bad. Look at a game like Bioshock Infinite people complain cause its only 8 hours or so and the pacing is awful

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

and they are similar how...

ryangcnx-2

Story driven FPS games with mediocre gameplay and an emphisis on world building and atmosphere

Except that one is a Fantasy game while the other is a Military/Army game. 2 completely different settings. 

For example, one of my favorite games this gen is Dragon Age Origins. Say they made, Spec Ops like Origins. Story Driven, a simlar RPG battle and leveling system but kept the whole military aspect of it and it's story. I would still be drawn way more to Dragon Age due to it's fantasy setting. 

I can't speak for all gamers as that is my opinion, but it's why I think Infinite is getting more attention.

So your argument is fantasy is inherently better than non fantasy? Thats dumb

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

and they are similar how...

lostrib

Story driven FPS games with mediocre gameplay and an emphisis on world building and atmosphere

FPS games...did you even play Spec Ops?

Shooters my bad

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="ryangcnx-2"]

You want to know why people prefer Bioshock infinite over Spec Ops TC... it's because spec ops is a military shooter while Bioshock fits more in the fantasy relm. I don't care if the story is well written, I dislike millitary shooters and many many people do too. This right there is an automatic win for Bioshock Infinite.

Personally I though Bioshock Infinite was good, and yes, the gameplay of the first Bioshock is better than infinite, but I enjoyed infinites story more. Still resaulting in a good game. Now is the best ever... no it's not. But you shouldn't be suprised why tons of people like Bioshock Infinite more than Spec Ops.

lostrib

Its not so much that people like Bioshock better than the fact people like it that much more. I feel they are very similar game yet one is treated like its gods gift to gaming

and they are similar how...

Story driven FPS games with mediocre gameplay and an emphisis on world building and atmosphere

You want to know why people prefer Bioshock infinite over Spec Ops TC... it's because spec ops is a military shooter while Bioshock fits more in the fantasy relm. I don't care if the story is well written, I dislike millitary shooters and many many people do too. This right there is an automatic win for Bioshock Infinite.

Personally I though Bioshock Infinite was good, and yes, the gameplay of the first Bioshock is better than infinite, but I enjoyed infinites story more. Still resaulting in a good game. Now is the best ever... no it's not. But you shouldn't be suprised why tons of people like Bioshock Infinite more than Spec Ops.

ryangcnx-2

Its not so much that people like Bioshock better than the fact people like it that much more. I feel they are very similar game yet one is treated like its gods gift to gaming

 It merely shapes public perception to those vulnerable to it's influence. 

Dave_NBF

Bingo

Now if you stated developers are catering to consoles which is holding back the type of gaming experiences if they developed games with the PC in mind, then you would have a better point to argue.  As it stands, you just wrote one of the dumbest posts I have ever encountered.  Thank you. Dave_NBF

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