[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]It's:

-longer

-the combat is more varied thanks to weapons, rails and vigors

-the enemies are more vared and more fun to fight against

-Has advancement system

-the story is both better written as well as better told

Columbia is more unique and much more varied setting

-The companion adds new unique mechanics into the game, can't say the same about Spec Ops' buddies

Krelian-co

-longer

Both games have pacing issues so this is a weaknes

-the combat is more varied thanks to weapons, rails and vigors

Guns are generic and boring in both

Rails were a neat idea but you barely get to use them 

Vigors didnt really add much

-the enemies are more vared and more fun to fight against

This was a weakness for both games. Infinite had a few special enemies but they almost never show up Crow, Fire, Handyman

-Has advancement system

It doesnt significantly change anything

-the story is both better written as well as better told

Infinites story telling is crap. It has terrible pacing. Nothing happens like 70% of the game then there is a 20 minute cutsecene telling you everything that happened. Also a story as convuluted as Infinite is not well written. I felt like I was supposed to hate Comstock but I dont know why I should. Also Ifinite uses one of the most annoying tactics in games the old princess is in another castle trick. "He get the ship and we are free!" You get attacked. "Hey get the gun smith" He is dead so you have to jump through 10 dimensions. Spec Ops story is not great but it gets the job down.

-Columbia is more unique and much more varied setting

I think Columbia does have some bright spots but as a whole its kinda weak. Its supposed to be this great citybut you spend most the game walking in straight lines. Spec Ops doesnt have the highs Infinite does(Like the begining) but as a whole it is much more consisitant Also Vigors made no sense in that world

-The companion adds new unique mechanics into the game, can't say the same about Spec Ops' buddies

The companion wasnt that great

I am not saying Spec Ops should be called the greatest game ever cause Infinite is. The point is why is one rated so highly over another if they are so similar in what they do well and fail

texas alt confirmed, fuking long walls of texts telling you how your opinion is wrong and his right with some incredibly dumb arguments even after you took the time to explain it to this clown.

Well you have bad taste and have been brainwashed by hype and the paid off media. Thanks for killing the industry

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Dude, I liked Spec:Ops the line, but its not as good as Bioshock Infinite.

AdrianWerner

Why?

-longer

-the combat is more varied thanks to weapons, rails and vigors

-the enemies are more vared and more fun to fight against

-Has advancement system

-the story is both better written as well as better told

Columbia is more unique and much more varied setting

-The companion adds new unique mechanics into the game, can't say the same about Spec Ops' buddies

-longer

Both games have pacing issues so this is a weaknes

-the combat is more varied thanks to weapons, rails and vigors

Guns are generic and boring in both

Rails were a neat idea but you barely get to use them 

Vigors didnt really add much

-the enemies are more vared and more fun to fight against

This was a weakness for both games. Infinite had a few special enemies but they almost never show up Crow, Fire, Handyman

-Has advancement system

It doesnt significantly change anything

-the story is both better written as well as better told

Infinites story telling is crap. It has terrible pacing. Nothing happens like 70% of the game then there is a 20 minute cutsecene telling you everything that happened. Also a story as convuluted as Infinite is not well written. I felt like I was supposed to hate Comstock but I dont know why I should. Also Ifinite uses one of the most annoying tactics in games the old princess is in another castle trick. "He get the ship and we are free!" You get attacked. "Hey get the gun smith" He is dead so you have to jump through 10 dimensions. Spec Ops story is not great but it gets the job down.

-Columbia is more unique and much more varied setting

I think Columbia does have some bright spots but as a whole its kinda weak. Its supposed to be this great citybut you spend most the game walking in straight lines. Spec Ops doesnt have the highs Infinite does(Like the begining) but as a whole it is much more consisitant Also Vigors made no sense in that world

-The companion adds new unique mechanics into the game, can't say the same about Spec Ops' buddies

The companion wasnt that great

I am not saying Spec Ops should be called the greatest game ever cause Infinite is. The point is why is one rated so highly over another if they are so similar in what they do well and fail

Stories in games are objectivly terrible(For example Bioshock Infinite) so of course gameplay

Gaming "critics" have a big effect on peoples views on the industry wether you realize it or not. Their reviews are so blatantly paid off and driven by hype. Lets look at a couple of games that are very similar but due to hype one is regarded much higher than the other. These two games being Spec Ops: The LIne and Bioshock Infinite

Both have mediocre repetitive gamplay

Both focus on atmosphere and a fleshed out world

Both were praised for their challegning themes

Both noted for their story

Bioshock Infinite- 95 Metacitic and hailed as a game that trancseneds the medium and developers in teh future will look to this as a turning point for the medium

Spec Ops: The Line- 76 Metacritic and has almost no recognition

Why does one game get hailed as one of the best games ever made if a game that came out a year before and did every thing Infinite did and did them very well. Without even arguing too strongly about thequality of one of the other I wouldnt say one pulls away from the other in quality in any of the categorys I listed yet one is way higher regarded by everyone. Why is this? Its purely the greedy media who was payed off and hype. They influence consumers with this crap and it only hurts the industry.

TC, just because you really enjoyed Spec Ops probably more than Bioshock Infinite and that the gaming media doesn't agree with you does not mean it's falling back 10 years. Way to be all dramatic.

ToastRider11

It didnt really enjoy spec Ops or Infinite. The point is why is one called the most important game ever when one gets almost no love

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

because infinite is actually a great game and altough spec ops deserved a bit more recognition is nowhere near.

Krelian-co

What makes Infinite better than Spec Ops?

im too lazy to explain but apparently most people also feel that way. Also i don't need anyone to validate my opinion.

The only reason people like Infinite more is hype. Explain why you like it better.

Dude, I liked Spec:Ops the line, but its not as good as Bioshock Infinite.

crimsonman1245

Why?

because infinite is actually a great game and altough spec ops deserved a bit more recognition is nowhere near.

Krelian-co

What makes Infinite better than Spec Ops?

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

How was Booker an extreme racist? How was he any more racist than anyone else during this time peroid?

Peredith

Did you hear all the sh!t he commited during Wonnded Knee? He was kicked out of the Pinkertons for christ sake.

Who didnt do bad stuff at wounded knee?

[QUOTE="_Judge_Gabranth"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]MGS4 is far from 10/10 worthy, FAR and gta4 is same crap with new characters all the time, again, far from 10/10 status GS gave both. I beat mgs4 back in 09 and it was worst than mgs1 and mgs3 which both scored way lower... I hate gta kind of games (brainless open world that you drive b*tches from one side of town to another) so my opinion is kind bias when it comes to gta but not MGS, LOVE mgs.

silversix_

Those games still didnt get the credit Infinite did

The problem is I like good games