It's not really oppression if you have the choice to leave. That's more...masochism.AirGuitarist87But leaving means surrendering. Surrendering is submitting to oppression.
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No one will ever tell you leave! They will tell you that A) GS Moderators' are significantly better than other gaming forums. B) You can always contact Customer Service if you are unhappy ---> You've been avoiding this suggestion all together for somereason. Maybe its because you like to argue? attention? idk... :( C) Work hard and long to the point where maybe you could be a moderator and change things, or at least be a good poster. ;) :idea:jewls555People have already told me and others to leave, so - you're WRONG. People complain about mods here than any other site, so - you're WRONG. Contacting customer service is pointless when they'll take forever to get to it, and something like this isn't even worth complaining to administration about. I don't take this as seriously as you think. I'm only responding because you guys keep talking to me... and I'm just putting my opinion out there. You're misinterpereting my tone. I'm not upset. I think this is dumb more than I think it's offensive. Which means, I'm more likely to do this: :roll: rather than this: :x
[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="_______1_______"] Actually threads like this let the mods know that people aren't tolerating any B.S. I demand fair treatment. There are bad mods just like there are bad police. Don't just plunk your head in the sand and call it a day. What does that do? :roll:jewls555Yeah and fighting a mod on their turf is like fighting a bad cop while on duty... exposing yourself to a pretty futile battle.. What you think is B.S. and what other people think is B.S. is very different my friend. As for your whole "mods use two accounts." That is propesterous. GS Admins track multiple accounts and if one of them were to get moderated or banned so would the moderator. So it would be impossible for you to be a moderator, have an alternate account where you flam and troll, and still be a moderator. Also you making false assumptions on GS users. Saying that we are addicted and what not. That is just downright not true. Your also kinda hijacking this thread. :( If you think it's not possible, you don't know much about technology and computers. 'Nuff said. Educate yourself on this subject before trying to argue against it. Please and thank you. :|
[QUOTE="_______1_______"] Actually threads like this let the mods know that people aren't tolerating any B.S. I demand fair treatment. There are bad mods just like there are bad police. Don't just plunk your head in the sand and call it a day. What does that do? :roll:warbmxjohnYeah and fighting a mod on their turf is like fighting a bad cop while on duty... exposing yourself to a pretty futile battle.. At least I'll go out with my guns blazing, and die with honor, so to speak. What's respectable about bending over and submitting to oppession? Nothing.
[QUOTE="_______1_______"]There is no benefit in moddng someone just because it makes you feel better. The benefit that YOU DID reap however, from not modding that post, was not giving in to the urge to allow bitterness to creep into your heart. You avoided becoming a victim to holding a grudge. You stayed above it, and you're a better man for doing so.
GabuEx
Okay, so, um, let's list the things that you're accused moderators of thus far:
1. They moderate based on personal agendas.
2. They're stupid because there's no benefit to moderating based on personal agendas.
3. They're bitter and vindictive because they moderate based on personal agendas.
How long will this list get before we're done? :P
Well, first of all, 2 and 3 are the same thing, and I never called anybody stupid. The only thing you have correct here is that I said they moderate based on personal agenda, and that's as clear as the sky is blue. When hundereds of users complain about the same thing, even offering evidence of what they were modded for and how petty it was, in combination with Gamespots's net-wide reputation for having incompetent moderators, then I'd say the users have a fairly legitimate beef.
[QUOTE="_______1_______"]BUT, I'm sure you're quite aware that MANY of the moderations handed out here are nothing short of ludicrious. If you want proof, just look at ANYONE'S moderation history. It's not that hard. :lol:
GabuEx
There have been moderations made that I might not have made myself. I have never seen any evidence that such moderations were made in bad faith, however.
Well now you're just being protective of your fellow mods. You wouldn't mod what they modded, so obviously you don't agree with their actions, yet somehow you also agree? Like I said, just take a look at some of the users' complaints. You'd have to be in complete denial to not see that some of these moderations are beyond ridiculous.
[QUOTE="_______1_______"]Just look at mine, even. My rap sheet isn't even that long, but still, even within those few moderations, there is no evidence that I violated the ToU, and thus it IS evidence that the mods have gone way outside of the duties they originally agreed to. I know you want to defend your fellow mods, but c'mon bro, sweeping it under the rug doesn't help anybody.
GabuEx
What you're saying is that you don't think there's any evidence. Moderators obviously disagreed. What exactly do you expect moderators to say? If they denied it, you'd say, "Of course you'd say that." If they admitted it, well, then they'd have admitted it. There is, quite literally, no way to prove a statement like that wrong. Which makes it - no offense - a completely useless statement for the purposes of actual discussion. It's the same sort of statement along the lines of "I believe in God, and you can't prove he doesn't exist".
Fact is, when you have two options - that moderators and you have come to different conclusions about whether your posts were violations, and that moderators are moderating based on a personal agenda - and one requires less assumptions (which is quite clearly the first option), the best choice to make is that one. Otherwise, you're slipping into the trap of believing something to be true just because you want it to be true, not because there's any actual evidence in favor of it being true.
Like I said in my first response, there is way too many complaints from the users, and Gamespot's reputation as a pre-school playground where everyone has to walk on eggshells is plenty of confirmation. This is the only site on the web I know of that's like this. And before some moron comes in and says, "well if you don't like it, leave!", let me just say that I'm not a quitter first of all, and second, the users are what makes Gamespot worth visiting, not the mods.
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This whole thread was made for the purpose of shining bad light on mods and degrading them. If you want to talk about ludicrous moderations there is a board to do is. Its called "Ask the Mods"
If you still aren't happy with the answer you are given you can go to Customer Service. Whether you choose to do so is your choice.
This thread should have been closed from the start, I mean a title "The Moderators are too strict" is begging for attention and slandering the mods' names. :o
I mean the communnity also has to look at the upsides here. I have had mods PM me advice and exact reasons why I was moderated. That doesn't happen everyday but I am thankful it happened. It lets the perpetrator get a better sense of whats right and wrong outside of the ToU.
Honestly a thread like this will get no where. Just contact Customer Service. :idea:
Actually threads like this let the mods know that people aren't tolerating any B.S. I demand fair treatment. There are bad mods just like there are bad police. Don't just plunk your head in the sand and call it a day. What does that do? :roll:[QUOTE="_______1_______"]And... who knows how many mods on here have alternate accounts on different computers where they do nothing but "flame" and "troll"? Then hop back on their mod account and act all innocent? I really wouldn't be suprised to find out that it's an everyday occurence.Hungry_bunny...I know you're not serious, I know you're just joking around, but I have to say this anyway :P
Like IF we had that kind of time on our hands... To become a moderator, your account must be at least about one year old... So who has that kind of ambition? To keep one account active in another computer for some years that is "acting" like mr "helpful level-headed poster with very few moderations" just for the slim slim chance of becoming a moderator? ... a volunteering job... Meaning No pay... Who?
The little leisure time we have left after work, school, gaming, irl life we use to chill in GS as moderators, and if we have other accounts on the same computer then admins have tools to find them all, (same tool used for ban dodgers).
No I'm not joking. How hard could it be? Many people have more than one computer. You could have two laptops sitting side by side, being a nice guy on one, and a jerk on the other. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type of thing. Don't act like it isn't possible. In fact, with as addicted to the internet some of these people are, and as much as they like to mess around, I wouldn't be suprised to find that was the case. At all.
I won't name any names, but a couple mods in particular come across as being that type of personality, to me anyway.
[QUOTE="_______1_______"]There is no benefit to be reaped. In fact, you just passed the test by not doing it . Good job.
I do want to make it clear, that Gabu is, from what I can tell, the best mod here, and maybe the only one who doesn't play those petty games. Although I could be wrong. Maybe he's just running a "nice guy" act. :lol:GabuEx
If there is no benefit to be reaped, then why in the world would we do it? Are you accusing us of being stupid as well? :P
I really think accusations like that are just downright unfair. I mean, what are we supposed to say in response? That we don't? Then if proof is requested, what are we supposed to do? Submit to a polygraph test? Bring in a mind-reader? It's just a plain old baseless, unfalsifiable statement. I interact with the other moderators on a daily basis, and while there are some things others have moderated that I might not have moderated, I nonetheless fail to see any evidence whatsoever that any moderations are handed out for any reason other than the betterment, or at least a perceived betterment, of the community.
There is no benefit in moddng someone just because it makes you feel better. The benefit that YOU DID reap however, from not modding that post, was not giving in to the urge to allow bitterness to creep into your heart. You avoided becoming a victim to holding a grudge. You stayed above it, and you're a better man for doing so.BUT, I'm sure you're quite aware that MANY of the moderations handed out here are nothing short of ludicrious. If you want proof, just look at ANYONE'S moderation history. It's not that hard. :lol:
Just look at mine, even. My rap sheet isn't even that long, but still, even within those few moderations, there is no evidence that I violated the ToU, and thus it IS evidence that the mods have gone way outside of the duties they originally agreed to. I know you want to defend your fellow mods, but c'mon bro, sweeping it under the rug doesn't help anybody.
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