@joshrmeyer: Exacly. Pro is not a slow system. For 400 price tag pro comes with a game and controller included (and soon will drop its price to 350 on one x release).

Now my opinion:

If you like gears of war halo and forza then xbox one x is the best choice.

With g4560 at 95€ price and 1050ti price went also up to 180€ due to the minerium? stuff? add psu corsair 380w for 50€ (and dont even come here with included or very cheap psu no real pc tech will get that for himself unless hes clueless).

Case and fans 45€ hdd 60€ board ddr4 80€ ram 8gb ddr4 60€ windows 10 (kingwin 25€ without support or original from microsoft 135€ with full client support) keyboard mouse 21€ (again no real gamer will use those. mouse can be 39€ easily to have some quality and keyboard depends on what you want).

A pc with g4560 and 1050ti can cost 700€ easily (or 600€ with kingwin windows).

And xbox one x is is better than that pc for cheaper.

Ps4 pro also has many great games.

So just follow your heart

@Nick3306: But ps4 pro playing 1440p native on some games is bad? (not to you but to other people that attack ps4 pro over resolution). :p

Trashing 4k 60fps forza is just ridiculous.

Im thinking about buying gpd win for 420€ and use it as an handheld gaming device.

But knowing about the new Mx 150 gpu I believe theres a possibility the new mx 150 can be used in future in ultra light/thin tablets and maybe a gpd win 2 in 2018?

what you think?

It is said to have 4x the power of the best integrated graphics available (being equivalent to pc 1030) meaning we can see soon tablets and handheld pcs with enough power to game?

@fully87: Exacly. Ps4 has lots of games with a good list of exclusives that will keep you satisfied :)

I own consoles and pc but personally (personal preference) Id say I like ultra thin and light pc tablets like ipad pro 10.5 for mobile gaming (dofus touch mmorpg) and surface pro fanless i5 8gb ram 256gb ssd for light pc gaming and music composition.

Also Im a fan of ps4 controller (also like xbox one controller a lot. If I compare x360 controller to x1 controller Id say x1 is better for me since I have better precison on shooters on xbox one controller).

I got switch but until skyrim and xenoblade chronicles 2 are out I will most likely use ipad pro 10.5 and surface pro during my free times

@Zero_epyon: true. ps4 and xbox one are holding pro and x back in some games

4k blu ray player in living room.

play games in living room while having the pc in their bedrooms and still getting pretty good gaming for story mode games (and some shooters like gears of war and halo in multiplayer aimimg 60fps its acceptable).

@NVIDIATI: woooow . what exacly is mx150 gpu?

Edit: I see 1030 for laptops. Ultra thin and light tablet pc with 1030 (mx 150) and quad core 8 thread kaby lake cpu seems like a dream *-*

Ps4 pro released last winter and one x released 2017 winter Id say 2021.

Give 4 years before upgrade to xbox 2 and ps 5.