That fight was in '93. Hopkins has chased Jones ever since. How can you say there was no one to fight in the middleweight division? It has been the premier division in boxing for the last 20 years! And why wouldn't Jones take a 50/50 split? I'll tell you why, Hopkins had about 17 consecutive defenses of his title going at the time, that's why. Damn right Hopkins wanted at least equal money! Jones knew a champion would never accept less so therefore he could duck a now more seasoned Hopkins while looking like a big man. Meanwhile he takes on the "mighty" Clinton Woods instead. :roll:DarkElf2112

Nobody knew who Hopkins was until he faught Trinidad. So yes Roy sat at the top beating mandatory challengers just like Calzaghe and Hopkins. Mandatory challengers are fighters that worked hard to get a chance to fight the champion so they arent poor fighters because they arent a big selling name. You believe great fighters are only the ones that the media talks about but the media only talks about fighters that sell. So Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe, Hopkins, and Mayweather are just overrated fighters. Also Roy was an undefeated champion holding all the belts in the light Heavy weight division and a win over hopkins and he should give him a 50/50 split? I wouldnt, he needs roy more than roy needed him back then. If anybody ducked anybody it was Hopkins for not taking that 60 40 split. Hopkins doesnt draw a big crowd and that is why his fight with Palvik was on HBO not HBO PPV. Roy Jones is the bigger draw by far over Hopkins, maybe not anymore but back then he was. When a fighter dominates a weight class or classes all the other fighters are no names. Example Tyson, who did Tyson fight that is note worthy? It didnt matter he demolished everybody. What I do hold against Jones is the fact that he danced around the ring way too much instead of going in for the kill.

I stand by what I said. Jones could've and should've moved down in weight to where the real competition was. And don't even tell me that he didn't spend half his career ducking Bernard Hopkins (until now 'cause he wants one more payday) because that's stone cold fact. Say what you will about a guy like Oscar DeLaHoya but he is the anti-Roy Jones Jr. DeLaHoya took some loses that he could have avoided but instead he sought out competition regardless of whatever weight class he had to compete at. And John Ruiz? Are you kidding? Ruiz was the biggest joke in a division full of jokes! What a dog and pony show that fight was. If an undersized light heavyweight could ever have dreamed up the perfect slow, plodding, slob to cherry pick, Ruiz was the one. I still say we'll never know how good Roy Jones Jr. was because he went out of his way to keep his record out of danger when he was in his prime.

DarkElf2112

I think you are confusing yourself. How did he duck Hopkins???? He beat him with one hand a long time ago. The talks were always their and from all the reports I have read it was Hopkins that ruin the deal many times. He wanted a 50 - 50 split with Jones after losing to Jones already. Also Jones is the bigger draw over Hopkins. Roy came from the middleweight division and dominated all the best fighters for almost a decade. The only reason he moved up to Heavy weight was because there was no big fights for him to make any money at all. Calzaghe is the only fighter I name that Jones didnt fight in his career.

This fight would have been relevant 5 or 6 years ago before Jones got exposed as a fraud but not anymore. The guy spent his whole career ducking real competition unless he absolutely had to fight an actual contender, so it's no surprise Calzaghe easily took him apart now. DarkElf2112

Roy Jones Ducking??????? The man had every belt in the Light Heavy weight Division and beat all mandatory challenger from all his belts. He couldnt duck anybody because if they were at the top of the ranks in any of those Organizations, then they faugth Jones. There was no ducking by Roy. Yes this fight would be been better before Roy went up to Heavy Weight to fight Ruiz but both guys were in different weight classes dominating and Roy wanted a Heavy Weight Belt since Buster Douglas had the Belt. Fraud Ha that is really funny and you must not watch much boxing if you believe that. As for Joe, he is a very very good fighter that alot of people underestimate. The man is 36 years old and launched 985 punches on Saturday. Name another middle weight to Light Heavy weight that can do that.

If he would have just left when he was undefeated then his legacy wouldn't be tarnished like it is now. But people keep doing it for the money. It seems like most the great fighters stayed in the game just a little too long and payed for it with loses and knockouts.

Why not just say I am going to fight 35-40 fights as a pro and call it a career. Most guys who go beyond that end up on the losing end. Boxing is for the sharp/fast not the slow/tired athletes.

Lostboy1224

I dont agree with you at all. You are saying because Jones wanted to continue fighting took some loses when he was older that you are now going to forget all that he has done? What Roy Jones has done in his career will never be forgotten no matter how many more loses he gets. He already placed his legacy in the books a lont time ago. Maybe Roy Jones just loves to fight and he doesnt care that he loses. If he enjoys and wants to continue then more power to him. I watched Roy Jones get mopped up this past weekend I still have the fullest respect for him and what he has dont for the sport of boxing. His prime years will never be forgotten by anybody. Ali did the same thing and his legacy remains with him and all his fans.

First fight i wanted to see in a long time, but neither my dad or brother bought it oh well :?X360PS3AMD05

They will replay it this weekend.

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[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="Time2PlayKid"]didn't get to see it but i heard calzaghe dominated...glad somebody shut roy jones up....that guy is washed upwaynehead895

Yes Tarver and Johnson KOed him but Joe toyed with him and taunted him the whole fight as Roy did before. You will laughed at some of the things Joe did to Roy. He faught Roy most of the fight with his hand down smiling at him.

I love MMA because now boxing has stepped it up big time as of late. I wasnt watching the fight for Jones, I was watching for Joe Calzaghe. You should try watching this Jones fight and the one with Jeff Lacy. Then you will understand.

[QUOTE="Time2PlayKid"]didn't get to see it but i heard calzaghe dominated...glad somebody shut roy jones up....that guy is washed upwaynehead895

Yes Tarver and Johnson KOed him but Joe toyed with him and taunted him the whole fight as Roy did before. You will laughed at some of the things Joe did to Roy. He faught Roy most of the fight with his hand down smiling at him.

Who watched this fight over the weekend. Wow what a show Calzaghe put on. The man is a true fighter and beat Roy Jones Jr by out Roy Jonesing, Roy Jones. At the age of 36 Joe threw 985 punches in the fight, that is amazing from any fighter. Yes Jones did drop Joe in the first round with a good shot. Joe rosed and dominated for 11 rounds straight tanting Roy as Roy has done to other fighters in the past. Who else enjoyed this fight?