roleplaying in WoW isn't the same as a single player game. Your roleplaying comes from roleplaying your character within a group, clan or party. Its the interaction with players that is really more important than with the world itself.

EDITED because it was a little too quote-tastic

blue_hazy_basic

the problem is then counter strike or call of duty 4 are then charcterized as RPGs. cause the interaction of characterization is done in the person rather than with the world. most WRPGS you can play out your character in JRPGs they tell what type of character you are some heroic emo guy. in WOW you aren't anything you can say you are some peasant lived on farm that was raided by orcs. but the world will not reflect that. you are player x a nobody with no face or charcateristics.

[QUOTE="ballistic3188"]Even then you have zero effect on the world itself. In baulder's gate I save imoen. imoen stays saved. in WOW or any MMO I save a captive they disappear then end up back to their cage like nothing happened. I kill hogger save the village from him he is alive again in 5 min. i clear gnomeragan so the gnomes can reclaim their land a couples hours later the same npcs that i killed reappear. do a quest to kill onxyia and show she is traitor to the alliance. she is still in human form still allowed in stormwind the next day. the world does not reflect the actual story. I killed ragnaros onxyia nefarion. why do they still persist in the world? cause nothing happened.Vandalvideo

oh i am not disbuting that they are going to make some of it canon. and yes there is story. but really the point is you aren't being part of the story the story doesn't change if everyone in the server decides to not save the world and sit in orgrimmar. In the new servers, shouldn't the gates to the shillithid be closed should the portal be closed. the world is very static. your effect on it is almost zilch. As A recall hakkar wasn't summon by us but was in fact being summoned by the tribe of trolls in which you had to kill him before he was fully powered. which i think i killed him like 10 times (fun encounter).

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I mean I don't know what to tell you if you just think it doesn't feel like one. It has all the regular trappings of an RPG (that I listed). Are there anything you feel thats missing?blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I mean I don't know what to tell you if you just think it doesn't feel like one. It has all the regular trappings of an RPG (that I listed). Are there anything you feel thats missing?blue_hazy_basic

I agree with Jandurin. MMo RPG aren't really RPGs. Your avatar has zero characteristics of any human. you show zero emotion show no decision making that effefcts the world or your character. you just go quest and finish quest move on to next quest.

Even then you have zero effect on the world itself. In baulder's gate I save imoen. imoen stays saved. in WOW or any MMO I save a captive they disappear then end up back to their cage like nothing happened. I kill hogger save the village from him he is alive again in 5 min. i clear gnomeragan so the gnomes can reclaim their land a couples hours later the same npcs that i killed reappear. do a quest to kill onxyia and show she is traitor to the alliance. she is still in human form still allowed in stormwind the next day. the world does not reflect the actual story. I killed ragnaros onxyia nefarion. why do they still persist in the world? cause nothing happened.

how can you say you are roleplaying a hero when the very thing that supossedly made you said hero is still alive? it makes no sense cause if you were taken out of the world nothing changed onxyia would still be there if you played or never existed.

wow is fun game I played it for a very long time and the bosses i mentioned i did infact kill. but to me MMO "RPGs" just aren't RPGs. cause the story is never "charcater name* killed *monster x* it will always be in lore some band of unnamed "heroes" and even if you or your server never defeated kil'jaeden he will still be described as defeated by a band of "heroes". the moment that WOTLK comes out

I can't figure out why the Wii balance board is so expensive. Is there some kind of advanced technology in it, or is it basically just a pressure sensitive board?

I applaud Nintendo for being able to absolutely milk consumers blind. First they sell a console with slightly worked-over gamecube hardware for 250% more than what the Gamecube sold for. Next, they make their bland games out to be "genre defining", "breakthrough" titles, yet nobody seems to play them according to Neilsen. And now, they are selling a $5 piece of plastic for $100 under the guise of it being good for kids, and actually selling out of them.

I just got done finishing up the first Grand Prix in Mario Kart wondering why I bought this game which looks like garbage and takes cheap shots every chance it gets...

WillieBeamish

A. the wii is two times more powerful than a gamecube and includes wifi which apparently to microsoft is worth 90 bucks.

B. the the balence board is worth more than 5 bucks. the fact that it is wireless and presure sensors sensitive to 10 lbs to 300lbs

C. the wii has had more total software sales then PS3 and xbox in the first 18 months

http://kotaku.com/5010214/nintendo-wii-has-highest-software-sales-for-first-18-months

i guess they are gimmicks. but that is using the standard definition "an ingenious or novel mechanical device ". not the what the hell all the fanboys are going on about. it is an exercising game peripherial with minigames. it not unlike the guitar peripherial for guitar hero or the DDR pad used in DDR. they have their one use and do what they do effectively. sure it doesn't target you "hardcore" gamers but to those non-gamers it is easy interface to manipulate. in that effect is an ingenious device.

Soul Calibur

Tekken has too much juggle for my liking. From my perpective it look like most of the time it was just both sides attempting to get that launcher and then juggle them down. you can take a person from 100% to 20% in one juggle and that just irritates me.

soul calibur is more of the meta game of stand off and getting that small combo in.