You are forgetting that the Bible is addressed to the body of believers and that Scripture builds on Scripture. Scripture makes it very clear who are the sheep and who are the goats. You continue to want to take verses out of context and ignore the whole counsel of God's Word. I do not accept that premise. blackregiment
I can do it all day long. Watch me. Plzhelpmelearn
I am sure you can. Humanity has been doing that since the Garden of Eden when that famous question was first posed, "Yea hath God said?"Psa 118:8 Itis better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. blackregiment
John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit..
Baptism must be being born of the water. Receiving the holy spirit is being born of the spirit. Thus everyone who is not baptized in Jesus name and has not spoken in tongues (as in Acts 2) will BURN.Plzhelpmelearn
Born of water is natural birth. Born of the spirit is being reborn, a new creature in Christ. Water baptism is an announcement to the body of believers that one has accepted Christ as their lord and Savior and intends to follow Christ. Are you suggesting that Jesus lied when Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be with Him in paradise that day? When was the thief baptized with water?Luk 23:39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
Luk 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
Luk 23:41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.blackregiment
What!?!? okay...1. None of those verses you supplied say anything about what is required on our part for salvation. I know that Jesus is the means of salvation that does not mean that Jesus can't save anyone He wants. Even if you quote Paul talking to the Phillipian jailer, that is not necessarily indicating that everyone who is saved must confess Jesus Christ is Lord, only that doing so would in fact save the jailer. Plzhelpmelearn
Are we reading the same Bible? The Bible makes it very clear.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life: and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
2. I specifically said that scriptures MUST be interpreted in context. I am accusing you of taking scripture out of context when you try to interpret verses in Matthew with verses in other books of the Bible. Also, when you use the notion of "God's whole counsel" you are only saying "what I claim God's whole counsel is". Gods counsel is based on scripture and if you are using certain scriptures to interpret other scriptures who is to say it can't be the other way around? I can interpret the whole Bible based on my view that Matthew 25 is saying that doing good works for the least of people is necessary for salvation and make everything else secondary. Would that be any different than what you are doing? Plzhelpmelearn
A basic principle of Biblical interpretation is that we must let Scripture interpret Scripture in light of the whole counsel of God's Word. You continue to resist this. That is your choice but if you study the rules of Biblical Scripture, you will find that this doctrine is accepted by virtually all theologians and Biblical scholars.
3. No the thief died under the old covenant while the revelation of Holy Spirit and baptism in Jesus name are the new covenant which was established on the day of Pentecost.Plzhelpmelearn
So are you saying Jesus did not know what He was talking about when He said that to the thief?
Thus I stand by the fact that if you have not spoken in tongues you are not saved. Read Acts 2, 10, and 19 for further proof.Plzhelpmelearn
A discussion of speaking in tongues is beyond the scope of this thread so I am not going to get into a discussion of that, no matter how hard you try to change the subject. I will say however, that speaking in tongues, as occurred in Biblical times, was speaking in a known language, understood by those hearing it, not the random, unintelligible, mumblings as practiced in some Churches today.
The following articles address "speaking in tongues" in detail from a Biblical perspective.
http://www.speaking-in-tongues.net/about.html
http://www.gotquestions.org/tongues-Holy-Spirit.html
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