@EricDWright: @Mogan Gives you the romantic view of the situation. I´ll give you just mere facts. ME3 divided the fanbase of ME in half. Created the biggest shitstorm ever saw in gaming. Oh, and the story is so bad that allowed fans to make a theory in which everything that happened is a dream.
Normally ME3 fans use the "It's just the last 5 minutes of the final game which are awful", but we all know that there is much more than that. If you are going to play it I don´t want to give spoilers... but... be prepared.
@PrpleTrtleBuBum: You said it yourself, a good writer would lead to different outcomes. What we get is one ending (red, green or blue are the same, the kid choices), and a middle finger, that obviously is the refusal ending.
I never said that the Quarians were bad guys per se. But the Geth response is logical because it´s self defense. I understand that some people just dont care, and that´s ok by me, but since I met Legion things changed. In ME3 the Geth were no more just mindless sintetics, they are a new race.
"Do you consider it a war crime to mindrape the reapers?"
So far as I know we are the ones with a brainwashed in the end of ME3. Synthesis ending in mind obviously. The reapers are the enemy in this war, no action against them are war crimes. Unless some of them went rogue... but this would need context.
"It should have been an honorable battle eye to eye?"
Not eye to eye. The honorability in war is not in the strategy you use, it´s in the process, the context and the result. Someone should give Hacked the book "art of war", he seriously skipped strategy in training war day.
ME1 ending honorable, ME2 ending honorable, ME3 ending... no, not even close to know what that word means.
"ME3 pretty much started with comment "Reapers can't be defeated with conventional weapons..."
Let´s forget the fact that in ME3 you can defeat some reapers with conventional weapons... The game says, you can't beat them conventionally, but gives you a weapon who is able to kill them with space magic... funny isn´t it.But the worst part is that this weapon is an impossibility. How can you create something to fit other extructure? If YOU DON`T KNOW what extructure is? Sorry the caps... it´s such a stupid thing that it hurts.
"The other 2 endings can be disregarded because Bioware did so too."
Oh no... Destroy is just another ending, nothing more. In fact, in the mind of the "artist" the perfect ending is the massive rape, I mean synthesis.
Do you really want to know why a conventional fight it's impossible? Because almost no one would choose one of the other endings. If that were the case you would lose the purpose of a multiple ending. Ironicly, by trying to go artistic Supermac created three endings that are the same... a decision made by the enemy... not by Shepard.
@nibbin1191: My experience started in a bad way, Arrival DLC, then the beginning of the game didn't help because it makes ME1 plot a stupidity. There were two good missions, tuchanka and rannoch, but even those missions are great because of ME2 loyalty missions. But the dildo plot is just an insult, a deus ex machina device created because the lead writer does not know how to make a cohesive story. Then the endings... well... the endings...the crimes...
ME1 for the story, ME2 for the crew, ME3 for the artist...
@PrpleTrtleBuBum:"It's a fresh change to have so strong enemy you can't just win with a big mega-laser blast right into Harbinger's face."
Funny... I thought that was what really happened. A deus Ex Machina device that miraculously saved the day....Or not...
"Plus ever since the trilogy started machines were built to be the enemies."
In mE1 maybe, but not in ME2. In fact ME2 presents the Geth as the good guys and the Quarians as the ones who started the war.
"And if you then really don't want to kill Geth you can choose blue ending and brainrape the reapers."
It doesn't matters. A crime is still a crime. Do you want to debate which one is worse?
"I dunno, did people expect a fourth, ultimate max paragon choice "Let's all live happy together: humans, aliens, geth and reapers"?"
What I did not expected was space magic. I wanted an honorable end o my Shepard. Not to end as a criminal doing the enemies work.
"Though really based on all the comments about the ending I've seen everyone has different issues with the ending."
Funny, I have problems with almost the points you made. But you sound as if that was something so hard to get... ME1 and ME2 did it right, so... why not ME3? I know is an artistic game, but some of us just wanted ME style again, nothing more.
@nibbin1191: "ME3 really is a fantastic game and it's such a shame that the last 20 minutes..."
Well... I wouldn't call fantastic to the "dildo plot" (aka crucible)... Uhm... Now that I think about it, I´m wrong, it was fantastic, in a magical and artistic way...
@yogibbear: As Nibbin1191 said... it is canon. I agree that the EC is a piece of garbage, but is not different than the original endings. It´s like a cherry of ice piss on the top of a crap cake.
@Benny_a: That's what I was talking about earlier. The difference between good or bad. You don´t have the choice of kill anyone. The choice is who you are going to save. Sadly you can only save one of them, but you are not the one who kills, the bad ones do that.
In dlc Arrival you assume the decision, same goes for ME3 endings. From far away it may look the same thing, but at closer look we are talking about very different things.
The difference is clever writing (drew K.) and stupid writing (M. walters).
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