@saltslasher: No it falls on we've heard it all before, the lies, the promises from MS, and they never deliver on ANYTHING. They need to prove themselves, then maybe people will give them the respect they "had" with the 360 (without the red ring of death of course).

A sucky year for gaming pretty much all year. Except maybe for God Of War, Spiderman and AC Odyssey.

@Pedro: Worthless studios, name something one of those studios has put out that's so great and NEW?

@nerveagentuk: It's a great piece of hardware with no software, 3rd party games have sucked this year, and nothing promising for the year to come. All a bunch of crappy sequels. I have a PS4 just for exclusives, and even they are FEW and far between now. Gaming has sucked for the last few years. Badly ;o(

Why not concentrate on new IP's instead? Just a thought ;o) I still have a 360 that works perfectly for OLD games.

The PS4 (base, slim) is still the top selling console, it's never needed a BOOST, so the Pro was never needed. The difference is so small between the two (visually) it's ridiculous. 99% of games for PS4 run at 1080p anyway. Most run at 1440p on the Pro, Microsoft needed the X badly, Sony doesn't/didn't. So why would it sell or be discounted, especially with the Spiderman Slim Ps4 for just 199$!!

@ghost140: That's because 90% of people still love the regular PS4 (myself included). And the Pro is NOT giant leap above it, especially with most games at just 1440p. Unlike the huge gap between the X and the Xbox One S. ;o)

Best Buy has a no return policy on Black Friday products, so good luck with that. They are as bad as GAMESTOP. GO TO WALMART!!

@berrlett: Yeah i have an original white XB1 and it still looks and plays great! The X is very unreliable as well, power supply issues ruin the system. I like the dreaded external power supply on mine NEVER a single issue. The X's burn up way to fast.

The failure rate on the X models is so high I wouldn't take one for free!!