Also, my picks are- Torment obviously, Xenogears(IF it had been properly finished) and I'll throw a new one out there- The Void.

[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"][QUOTE="kaealy"]

I guess they need to play more games... Or just open a book once and awhile.

streak000

Ok, this is nonsense. I'll grant you that the writing in Planescape was a cut above most games, but you're giving it way too much credit. If it were a book, it would be a forgettable fantasy paperback. In no way does it even come close to any true classic of literature. It raised some interesting points about mortality and I liked the general aesthetic and atmosphere of the game, but the overall plot was pretty far from fantastic. The way it was resolved was, frankly, terrible. My memory's a bit hazy, but I seem to remember that the final boss This is simply ludicrous on any level. I was quite disappointed with the story after hearing people like you bang on about its excellence for years. If you think that was literature-level material, maybe you should read a few good books yourself ;)...

Im rather well read, I would still consider Torment up there. You have to consider everything, the excellent dialogues with your companions, the optional encounters in the world. Of course the main storyline itself is nothing short of excellent. [spoiler] You criticize the final boss but what game(or book) can you think of that had an opponent for the protagonist as creative as that? And think of the consequences of his encounter. After countless attempts of trying to slay his mortality, this was his last chance, if he had failed he would of been doomed to walk the planes forever with his mind gradually decaying but his body refusing to die. [/spoiler]

Also, none of it was ludicrous when you consider the fantasy setting. Everything was explained, and made perfect sense to me. Frankly if it did not make sense to you, then the fault is probably with you rather then the game.

My apologies to all those that disagree, but these two games are the best.

[QUOTE="bunkster"]The real problem with socialism is that it goes against our nature. Capitalism is much more alike the jungle that we evolved out of, and so it feels more natural and 'right' to us.PATH0G3N

Please go read page 2, communism is against our nature and capitalism is vile, abusive and wrong, socialism is the middle ground between them and IT IS NOT COMMUNISM.

Socialism is communism on an economic scale. Its central idea is one of equality and such a thing is unnatural. Ideally if we were all rational beings I might agree with you that we would be better off with socialism but you have to take into account that we are not so far yet from our caveman roots.