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#1 burpysmurph
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[QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

We all share our ideas, but I do not appreciate being attacked by ignorant thugs for it, and in light I will not blame you.

Idolizing, no matter how petty, is an unfortunate circumstance of online existence.

I do indeed appreciate the behind-the-scenes work involved in creating music the massas can enjoy. I myself am a former rock/pop music performer, and I am personally disgusted at how easy it was to influence "weak" minds, but I will never again go there.

I have learned much about music since then, and I will never go back to what I was. I despise modern pop and rock music because I understand not only how shallow it is from a technical aspect, but I hate more what it represents from a sociological aspect, and perhaps that is why I have been so verbose up to now.

pianist

Well, then you and I certainly share something in common - a distaste for modern popular music. But I feel it's important to point out that if the ultimate goal of music is enjoyment and communication, this music that we despise IS doing its job. I could never bring myself to write or play pop or rock knowing what I do about music, but I'm glad it is bringing fulfillment to the people who enjoy it (both the creators and the consumers). Until we significantly boost arts education, it is doubtful that most people will be able to take much from more intellectually demanding art, and so they would have access to nothing.

Those who are well-versed in an art form tend to demand more from it, and conversely, the less you know about an art form, the less likely it is that you will be able to appreciate a complex work in that particular form. Like it or not, people who know a great deal about music are much fewer in number than those who know very little about it, and so if you take the position that music should be about enjoyment and appealing to the common man (a point of view with which I tend to agree), then you should at least tolerate popular music in Western culture, because without it, many would have no access to music they can readily appreciate and would likely choose to ignore it altogether.

It's 5 am here. Weekend or not, time for me to pack it in. :P

Good night.

I still beleive that music is for the people that will actually listen to it, but I still believe that the people that matter are the ones that will actually take the time to listen to it. I'm not talking about the morons that tune into public rock stations, I am talking about the potential NPR listeners that know better but still have crap taste in music. They know better but can't bear to admit it! America is the hardest country to break away from the substandard norms, but the opportunities are nonetheless there. It's just so hard to see life and music differently when you are surrounded by ugly mediocrity and crapness on a daily basis, and the overwhelming influence of Republicanism does NOT help!

The human spirit will always prevail to a select few. I must seem horribly political at this point, but if you ain't feelin' it, screw you! Republicans hate creativity! It is anti-Republican to have a free mind or spirit! Progress is through Socialism!

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#2 burpysmurph
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Karma does not exist, but the real consequences of how you interact withe the world do, so beware.
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#3 burpysmurph
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I'm working from a hotel and the wireless connection is crap, but bear with me....
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#5 burpysmurph
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[QUOTE="burpysmurph"][QUOTE="pianist"][QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

I was trying to strike an alternate/deviated conversation with you, but apparently you are so defensive and/or elitist, you are not willing to engage. I'm sorry (for you). You lost my respect.

black_cat19

*shrug*

Respect from those on the internet is of little consequence to our lives. You approached this deviated conversation with hostility, giving the impression that you misinterpreted both the topic itself and my intent in creating it. And I did humor you in the reply you just quoted by 'talking Schoenberg,' despite my misgivings about lending the impression that avant garde music is in any way related to a listening test.

Youre "Mafia" needs to go on holiday.

I think that music should be an enjoyable practice, and not an academic practice. It should be enjoyed by the people that listen to it, and that does not include the "cultural Heathens", but rather the culturally-diverse and life-loving people of this world. If you cannot understand where I am coming from, then shame on you. How on Earth did you end up in this "online" predicament??? I would have presumed a person of your "calibre"would not be participating in such pedantics, yet you are, and so am I...

Will you cut it out already! :x

Everyone has already told you a million times, this has nothing to do with either enjoying music, or taste in music, it's just a test of musical skills. Skills that wether you like it or not are nesesary for playing and making music, both of which, you seem to not want to understand, have nothing to do with listening or liking whatever music you want, none of this has anything to do with that, you're the one who brought it up, and quite frankly, you're the only one who gives a damn about it in this thread, the rest of us are actually sticking to the topic and just comparing results for an online test.

You seem like a very bitter and misguided person indeed. The bottom line is, if the common man does not feel it, music does not matter a damn.

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#6 burpysmurph
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[QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

I was trying to strike an alternate/deviated conversation with you, but apparently you are so defensive and/or elitist, you are not willing to engage. I'm sorry (for you). You lost my respect.

pianist

*shrug*

Respect from those on the internet is of little consequence to our lives. You approached this deviated conversation with hostility, giving the impression that you misinterpreted both the topic itself and my intent in creating it. And I did humor you in the reply you just quoted by 'talking Schoenberg,' despite my misgivings about lending the impression that avant garde music is in any way related to a listening test.

Youre "Mafia" needs to go on holiday.

I think that music should be an enjoyable practice, and not an academic practice. It should be enjoyed by the people that listen to it, and that does not include the "cultural Heathens", but rather the culturally-diverse and life-loving people of this world. If you cannot understand where I am coming from, then shame on you. How on Earth did you end up in this "online" predicament??? I would have presumed a person of your "calibre"would not be participating in such pedantics, yet you are, and so am I...

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#7 burpysmurph
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[QUOTE="burpysmurph"]

I was trying to strike an alternate/deviated conversation with you, but apparently you are so defensive and/or elitist, you are not willing to engage. I'm sorry (for you). You lost my respect.

HardQuor

sounds like you were trying to hijack the thread and now you're all butt-sore over it.

Why is everyone else so butt-sore? Is this man like a drug lord or something?! I wish to engage in a conversation and he is treated by others online like a Lord Fauntleroy. Pathetic!

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#9 burpysmurph
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Who the hell are you people?!? I feel like I am being met by a mafioso group like I was trying to sell/buy drugs or something.
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#10 burpysmurph
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I consider Pianist a friend, and worthy of a discussion (debate), which is more than I can say for any of you.

I had no idea he had such a "posse" operating on his behalf. This is disgustung.