This is the model who Feminists demand must not be on the ad, who Protein World are refusing to take down.

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/25/protein-world-the-body-shaming-protest-that-turned-decidedly-ugly/

Protein World, a popular brand has been attacked for supposedly ''shaming'' other women (coz fit, healthy women are unacceptable nowadays) and have been accused of being sexist for posting a ad of a fit, healthy woman. When this usually occurs, the politically correct mobs harass these companies into apologizing, but not Protein World...

https://twitter.com/ProteinWorld/status/591355703710842881

Since that tweet, they have been visciously attacked by Feminists and DEMANDS have been made that they take down the ads or post fat women instead, but Protein World have stuck to their guns and have pushed back, pointing to the absurdity of the fact that they're a FITNESS company - they advertise fitness, what do people seriously expect?

Finally, a company that has a pair of balls. Check out their Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/ProteinWorld

Their sales have spiked since then, and they've gained a lot of new fans.

They are re-tweeting people who are thanking them for standing up to Feminists and SJW's (they're calling them out by name).

The person running the account, is the CEO, Arjun Seth.

Is there a reason Neo GAF is full of SJW beta's who ban anyone who dares disagree?

@super600:

The elements that I'm referring to are the people that talk about SJW's/opponents a lot which is a significant portion of the movement and people who have aided/ participated in the harassment of their opponents which also makes up a portion of the GG'ers that like to talk about their opponents and SJW's a lot.And your three points about those three women were all GG supported. I don't believe anything from GG in the first place about those three women. Those women all had awful hit piece filled with lies written about them by a bunch of gg'ers.

SJW's have made Gamer-Gaters lose their jobs, contributed to much more harassment (statitically) and attempted to destroy Gamer-Gate. It would be foolish not to oppose SJW's, they are a counter-movement with the sole aim of opposing Gamer-Gate. They're part of the culture war; freedom of expression (pro-GG) vs censorship happy slacktivists (SJW's). Atheism, Sci-Fi, the BSDM community, Metal and Comics have fought the same fight (and still are). The SJW ideology, also underpins shitty gaming journalism.

Again, as my pictures showed, a very small minority of Gamer-Gate harass people - and they've been continuously denounced by most supports of Gamer-Gate.

Why do you not believe me? It's been archived, with evidence. You don't have to listen and believe, you can look at the evidence. Brianna Wu created a thread hating on herself and deleted it once she realized she was still in her account. Anita Sarkeesian lied about liking gaming. These women are not only con-artists, but liars and part of the hypocrisy.

@toast_burner:

Which is an odd thing to claim as in this thread you can see examples of gamergaters refusing to debate and just making shit up. You really don't need to look far.

How is the claim odd? There have been constant attempts to create debates. These attempts to reach out have been archived; and they never end with aGGro's agreeing to debates.

So you admit that sockgate was just gamergaters pretending to be victims? Then how are we to know that they aren't just pretending with everything they say?

Not really; what the Sock-Puppet guy did was to erase the voices of minorities, it was pushing the narrative that any minority who disagrees with him is fake. However, the trending and constant shit-posting wasn't needed; but it was done anyway, because many felt that aGGro's had it coming. aGGro's responded by saying Gamer-Gate needed thicker skin, yet also opposed a harmless joke in Pillars of Eternity and Lion-Head liking boobs.

So what exactly is wrong with saying gamers are dead? I probably play more games than the majority of people in this thread and I'm working on making my own games, and even I think it's accurate. The word gamer never should have existed in the first place, gaming isn't a culture it's a hobby. People have moved on from seeing gamers as a bunch of neck beards and so "gamers are dead" now "gamers" are just regular people from a wide range of backgrounds.

Well, saying ''Gamers are Dead'' carries a connotation but saying ''obtuse shit-slingers'' is something else; it is designed to flame Gamers. A Gamer is different to someone who just plays Games. A Gamer is someone who regularly plays Games, competes and has an understanding of the industry, to an extent. Someone who is involved with the Gaming world.

@super600:

It's not a debate sub for the final time. They don't have to listen to gg because debating is not a point of the sub, but gg'ers do post on the sub sometimes that are not trying to invade the sub or pull dumb things that get them banned..Multiple people besides crawley have praised that sub for supporting them despite some issues with the sub. A lot of that post on the sub do support the big three targets of gg. I don't care about the harassment patrol because it's been useless in stopping the actual harassment that is still going on. A lot of people including me will most likely be interested in debating you guys if certain elements of the movement had less influence over it anyway.

It doesn't matter if it's a debate sub, the premise that Ghazi has on Gamer-Gate is absurd. Gamer-Ghazi is built on the notion that Gamer-Gate is a misogynistic movement consisting of right-wing nut-jobs {which is absurd; most Gamer-Gaters are Left-Leaning Libertarians}. The entire foundation of the sub-reddit is false, so why can this not even be questioned? If someone challenges that, they're banned. You're right in the sense that the sub isn't a debate sub, it's a circle-jerk of lies. I've posted a few comments and was immediately banned, yet Ghazelles are fine to post KIA whenever they want.

The fundamental difference between KIA and Ghazi:

• KIA allows different opinions. Ghazi does not (that's why KIA thrives at 32k subs, whereas Ghazi lags behind at 6k)
• KIA encourages to verify, whereas Ghazi encourages to ''listen and believe'' (devoid of skepticism)

The ''major victims'' of Gamer-Gate include:

• Brianna Wu, a serial abuser who is not only a troll but has on record, sent threats to herself and deleted them
• Anita Sarkeesian, a woman whose threats were found non-credible by the police. In addition to this, this woman has flat out conned aGGro's out of 160k
• Zoe Quinn, a liar

Ghazi will believe whatever is thrown at GG, yet question aGGro threats towards GG (which is statistically higher). I'd like to know what ''certain elements'' you refer to? The harassment is attached to the hash-tag and anyone can hijack it...the media will only report on the 1.26% because everything else breaks the narrative.

@toast_burner:

This also applies to Gamergaters. It would be nice to see some actual discussion go on bout this, but neither side seems to want to address what the other actually says. KIA is just as bad as Ghazi, don't pretend it isn't. All they are is just people pretending they are under attack when they aren't and constantly misrepresenting what people say. The entire movement originated from misinterpretation, people got so mad about those gamers are dead articles but none of them even seem to understand what "Gamers are dead" even means, and then there's sockgate and the countless other occurrences of people either lying and intentionally misrepresenting someone just so they have something to argue against.

Just look through the posts of gamergaters here. They are all pretending that they are part of something big while doing nothing. And then there's the constant lies they post here about anyone who doesn't agree with them.

What?

Gamer-Gate DOES want to address this. We have constantly invited aGGro's to streams and debates. We have asked them to debate wherever they want. The response, for most of the part is refusal to debate. And for the minority of aGGro's who do debate, they get schooled, and then proceed to return to their faux-narrative after the debate. Look at Sargon's BBC Interview, Milo's Interviews or the Al Jazeera debate, Gamer-Gaters schooled across the board yet after the debate, those same people who lost returned to their faux-premise.

We understand what ''Gamers are Dead'' means pretty clearly; ''obtuse shit-slingers'' sums up their viewpoint. The Sock-Gate was to give aGGro's a taste of their own medicine with their faux-outrages. Gamer-Gate is one of the best things to happen to Gaming, because now, only the truth will prevail. And the truth lays with Gamer-Gate.

@super600:

GamerGhazi has never been a debate sub.There are other subs for that. It always has focused on supporting victims of the movement and also focuses on mocking dumb things respectful that gg'ers say. It focuses less now on the mocking and more on topics related to gaming and diversity and supporting the victims of the movement.Gamerghazi is not perfect and it's getting better.They have done stuff I don't like.One more thing the problem with the harassment is not that it exists it's the fact that it's crowdsourced which makes it way worse.

Gamer-Ghazi is a sub to which various members assert views on what they think of Gamer-Gate. If these views are questioned, the person questioning them is banned. That is the type of sub it runs --- they have a narrative and they do not want it challenged. You say it focuses on ''supporting'' victims yet we have people like Liana K ousting Ghazi for harassing her; hell, we had a Ghazi member leave to join KIA because of the racism at Ghazi. Ghazi has never been about supporting victims, they are a circle-jerk of mocking Gamer-Gate while refusing to allow anyone to question their views. The closest to so-called ''support'' they give was to Kim Crawley and that woman scammed Ghazi to kingdom come and back.

She was fired for writing an inaccurate, agenda driven hit-piece. She claimed Gamer-Gate harassment and Ghazi shilled for her.

1.26% (correction from my last post) of the tweets from a hashtag is harassment, and there are members in Gamer-Gate who attempt to stop this with the Gamer-Gate harassment patrol.

I can't speak for The Last Ride, but with aGGro's, their minds, for 98% of the time cannot be changed. This is because they love the idea of Gamer-Gate being a harassment campaign. These are the same people who will preach on never to judge groups of people, but use 0.2% of Gamer-Gate's harassment tweets to smear the entire movement.

aGGro's want Gamer-Gate to be a hate group because it makes them feel good about themselves; it's finally a change for them to fight for something good, even if it isn't true, it gives them a purpose. This is why they religiously believe that Gamer-Gate is hate, the idea of Gamer-Gate being a force for good would crush their ideology.

This is why Gamer-Ghazi bans debate. They want no part of it because their beliefs are open to scrutiny.

Ethics?