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#1 cpo335
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At least she didn't oput it in a microwave...
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#2 cpo335
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It's on CNN! It's all gone. What will we do!?

I say we find a replacement.

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[QUOTE="cpo335"]

Now I don't think that what they did was absolutly horrible, and by the way you guys are writing, you make it seem like these two kids are going to grow up to be Hitler 5 Years is enough. No need to destroy the boy's lives over killing 1 cat.

pianist

I think you really need to re-think what you're writing here. I agreed with you up until this - suggesting the boys should be tortured killed over this crime is hypocritical. But what they did WAS absolutely horrible, and these boys do need to be very severely disciplined. Again, the manner in which they killed the cat and the circumstances of its death are incredibly disturbing. It demonstrates quite clearly that these boys have no trouble witnessing suffering for their own amusement, and that, my friend, is exactly the same mentality that most serial killers have. If you can listen to any living being screaming in agony for 10 full minutes then joke about it in the end, you are depraved, and in all likelihood, you are or will become a real menace to society.

Yes, they need to be severely disciplined but is death a necissary punishment? The boys don't deserve to die or be tortured or be "stuck ina giant microwave." What they need is a long time to sit in a corner and think about what they've done. And obviously professional help. If they do it again, then it becomes time for the heavy duty sentencing to happen.
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[QUOTE="cpo335"]

I laugh at all the people who say "Give them to me, I'll kill them," or "they deserve to die," when they are "supposedly" outraged at the death of a cat. Then they have the nerve to say something along the lines of "te cat doesn't deserve to die like that," or "animal cruelty = murder." Seriously, could you people get ANY MORE hyppocritical?

Now I don't think that what they did was absolutly horrible, and by the way you guys are writing, you make it seem like these two kids are going to grow up to be Hitler 5 Years is enough. No need to destroy the boy's lives over killing 1 cat.

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The cat didn't deserve it. They do. If anything, they should get something worse than a giant microwave.

So somehow killing an animal justifies killing a human?
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I laugh at all the people who say "Give them to me, I'll kill them," or "they deserve to die," when they are "supposedly" outraged at the death of a cat. Then they have the nerve to say something along the lines of "te cat doesn't deserve to die like that," or "animal cruelty = murder." Seriously, could you people get ANY MORE hyppocritical?

Now I don't think that what they did was absolutly horrible, and by the way you guys are writing, you make it seem like these two kids are going to grow up to be Hitler 5 Years is enough. No need to destroy the boy's lives over killing 1 cat.

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]Has no one here heard of probable cause? I would say finding a murder weapon in their front yard would give them all they need to search the house without a warrant.MrGeezer

Yeah, but at least in most people's homes, ANYONE has access to the front yard. If someone's running through the neighborhood with a gun and decides to ditch the gun, it's gonna end up on somebody's front lawn.

True, but the point still stands. If the murder weapon is in someones front yard, that house would be the first place I would look. Especially if they were in pursuit.

Well I don't know the law, so maybe someone can fill me in on whether or not that's enough evidence for a warrant.

But logically speaking, finding a gun on someone's front lawn would actually suggest to me that the killer DOESN'T live there.

I mean, if you're gonna ditch a murder weapon, why would you leave it on your own front lawn, where anyone can find it? As stated, anyone has access to his front lawn, which means that his own front lawn is not even a plausible place for the dude's dad to leave a gun.

If you're going to ditch the gun, you ditch it SOMEWHERE ELSE. Preferably somewhere where no one will find it.

What if the killer wants you to think that?
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

Umm... they cannot do that. You should sue the hell out of them. They cannot just break into your house anytime they feel like it and start collecting evidence. Especially only what, less than a day after the crime happened? And all the evidence they have is they found a gun on your front lawn?

They do not have permission to break into your house like that.

MrGeezer

Maybe they have more evidence than the TC knows about.

Since when do broken windows and a trashed house warrant "more evidence than the kid knows about?"

If anything, they got a warrant (highly doubtful consideing the crime just happened a day before the "broke in") and got the parents to comply. But since when do police officers break through windows and destroy property just to prove their point? and don't bring me some bogus case that you found from the 1970s in Detroit where some guy was falsely accussed.

And if the police are doing all of that CSI stuff in your front yard, you're house is trashed, your windows are smashed, your door is kicked down, and police are wandering around you're house (which they would be if your father is a prime murder suspect), then you would not be POSTING HERE.

You sir, are lying. I'm amazed at how many peopel believed him.

I don't think you read my post. The kid is saying that they're tearing up his house and there's not even any evidence that his dad is the killer. I'm saying that if they managed to get a warrant, maybe there really IS evidence that his dad is the killer.

I'm sure the guy doesn't want to think that his dad is a murderer. But for all anyone here knows, a dozen people could have IDed the guy, and he could've been caught on camera running down the street with the murder weapon.

Okay, assume you're last paragraph is correct and the police have IDed and basically confirmed his father was the murderer. Do you actually think that when the police are tearing through his house, searching for anything they can find, doing "DNA and CSI *** outside," that he would actually be sitting on the computer and posting about it on GS? "Hey, my Dad just got accused of murdering someone and now my house is basically destroyed and all of my personal belongings are gone! Ima go post it on GS." Plus, don't you think that the police (given that they've already torn apart his house and searched the premisis) will let ANYONE on the computer, especially when they have a possible murderer in their hands? It just doesn't add up.

Yeah, but that's a "this story is bull****" issue, and not a "they had no right to search his home" issue.

I'm not making any claims as to whether or not this story is true or not. I'm just saying that if it were true, the police may very well have some extremely damning evidence that the TC's dad is the murderer.

That is eactly what I am saying: That this kid and his story are bull****. I think that the police have every right to search his home but not in the manner in which they did.
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

Umm... they cannot do that. You should sue the hell out of them. They cannot just break into your house anytime they feel like it and start collecting evidence. Especially only what, less than a day after the crime happened? And all the evidence they have is they found a gun on your front lawn?

They do not have permission to break into your house like that.

MrGeezer

Maybe they have more evidence than the TC knows about.

Since when do broken windows and a trashed house warrant "more evidence than the kid knows about?"

If anything, they got a warrant (highly doubtful consideing the crime just happened a day before the "broke in") and got the parents to comply. But since when do police officers break through windows and destroy property just to prove their point? and don't bring me some bogus case that you found from the 1970s in Detroit where some guy was falsely accussed.

And if the police are doing all of that CSI stuff in your front yard, you're house is trashed, your windows are smashed, your door is kicked down, and police are wandering around you're house (which they would be if your father is a prime murder suspect), then you would not be POSTING HERE.

You sir, are lying. I'm amazed at how many peopel believed him.

I don't think you read my post. The kid is saying that they're tearing up his house and there's not even any evidence that his dad is the killer. I'm saying that if they managed to get a warrant, maybe there really IS evidence that his dad is the killer.

I'm sure the guy doesn't want to think that his dad is a murderer. But for all anyone here knows, a dozen people could have IDed the guy, and he could've been caught on camera running down the street with the murder weapon.

Okay, assume you're last paragraph is correct and the police have IDed and basically confirmed his father was the murderer. Do you actually think that when the police are tearing through his house, searching for anything they can find, doing "DNA and CSI *** outside," that he would actually be sitting on the computer and posting about it on GS? "Hey, my Dad just got accused of murdering someone and now my house is basically destroyed and all of my personal belongings are gone! Ima go post it on GS." Plus, don't you think that the police (given that they've already torn apart his house and searched the premisis) will let ANYONE on the computer, especially when they have a possible murderer in their hands? It just doesn't add up.

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[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

Umm... they cannot do that. You should sue the hell out of them. They cannot just break into your house anytime they feel like it and start collecting evidence. Especially only what, less than a day after the crime happened? And all the evidence they have is they found a gun on your front lawn?

They do not have permission to break into your house like that.

MrGeezer

Maybe they have more evidence than the TC knows about.

Since when do broken windows and a trashed house warrant "more evidence than the kid knows about?"

If anything, they got a warrant (highly doubtful consideing the crime just happened a day before the "broke in") and got the parents to comply. But since when do police officers break through windows and destroy property just to prove their point? and don't bring me some bogus case that you found from the 1970s in Detroit where some guy was falsely accussed.

And if the police are doing all of that CSI stuff in your front yard, you're house is trashed, your windows are smashed, your door is kicked down, and police are wandering around you're house (which they would be if your father is a prime murder suspect), then you would not be POSTING HERE.

You sir, are lying. I'm amazed at how many peopel believed him.