just stop trolling.

Most people say PC gamming is dead and or dying and such. That may be true in some sense times are changing and they dont make games like they used to. Console gamming is now the mainstream norm, and it has had adverse effects on its pc father. Paying for maps/content, xboxlive like services, and lack of key features that made pc gamming great like Deds for mw2.

But if theres on thing i've noticed over the years...There are an assload of pc gamming sleepers.

I started playing diablo 2 like 3 years ago so I was real late to the party. I loved the game and kind of became obsessed with it. I rarely talked about it with people because it was an old and dorky game.

Cause you dont wanna be that guy whose like " Hey I found a gul rune while playing Diablo II the lord of destruction for 6 hours straight last night." while everyone else is playing rockband and your in a dark room doing baal runs til 6 am.

But one night my sisters boyfriend was over and I called our new puppy the lord of destruction ( the skank chewed up tons of stuff ) in front of him and he was like do you play D2 and I was like heck yeah I do guy!! And we had a guy moment. At that time he was about 28 and about to graduate from pharmacy school. Not the type of person who you would even think played a videogame in his life.

Instances like the one above happend again and again to me. People who you would never now where huge pc gamers just kept comming out of the closet.

WoW Has soo many subscribers, Diablo, starcraft, cs, css, tf2, are played to this day.

I am interested to see how many people come out of hidding when games like SCII and D3 are released.

It makes me think that devs and publishers are missing the point in some ways. How many pc nerds are stuck in the closet just waiting to buy a new pc when d3 comes out?

The other day Saw 600thousands players on the starcraft II beta. I project it to sell in halo 3 numbers or better. Why do some publishers and devs ignore the sleeping giant? Why am I still playing 5,6,7,8,9,10 year old games on my pc? And more importantly why is DUBSTEP so awesome?

You seem to have very little faith in ID. I like to look at their track record. This isnt a killzone 2 cg trailer.

I havent been in awe of a games graphics since crisis. Seeing it in motion on an xbox of all things was just amazing I can't even imagine how good it will look on a gamming pc.

It proves to me that all these graphics threads are just dumb "360 cant run it" "ps3 cant run it"

There is no way an xbox should be able to run a game that looks that good at 60 fps by this logic. if you havent seen the game in motion go youtube it.

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kinect looks cool but is ms crazy? they want me to buy a 300$ 360 and a kinect witch will cost 150$ minimum. i thing they should a bundle 360 + kinect + a game

Respawn-d

are you dumb? 150$ minimum give me a break. Analyst have put it as low as 60.

Pachter...who predicted nearly everything ms did this year at e3.

kinect looks cool but is ms crazy? they want me to buy a 300$ 360 and a kinect witch will cost 150$ minimum. i thing they should a bundle 360 + kinect + a game

sasapac

are you dumb? 150$ minimum give me a break. Analyst have put it as low as 60.

worst conference in e3 history. sony won e3 by default they will show better games with move, no flailing your arms around or anything. when you play the move, you look so cool and hardcore playing it unlike the dis-kinect which makes u look really bad. only sony makes you look cool while playing games. kevin butler is the man too, sony won e3

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haha cute troll but dont feed this teenager bites

what were all you people hoping for?

MS uses the show to show off groundbreaking gamming technology that will and you can quote me change gamming.

The new Xbox 360 alone made the show great for me I dont even own one but I am buying that thing asap.

I have to disagree just on taste and opinion. I agree the game is apm intensive, but not so much as the original where just moving units in unison was a skill all its own.

Many of those RTSs with more "up to date UIs" lack the balance, fun, and overall satisfaction of sc. Also in terms of unit formations and formations moving at the same speed this is a bad idea. Batles come down so much to positioning in SC2 that a formation just limits you. I honestly believe that I would beat players using some type of set formation using none at all. I think this is why it wasnt included. Also many RTSs suffer from lack of really doing anything in battle. Its apm intensive because its like the whole package Not only must you be good at base management and econ but you need to know how to control your troops instead of just Amoving and watching fights unfold rather than controlling them.

While I have to say Bnet 2.0 is a weakspot the leagues and structure I think at this moment make up alot for the downfalls. Unskilled players who arent hardcore in their playing of sc can be pit against others unlike in scbw where you just joined a game and got dominated. While skilled players can hone their abilities against players on their level of play.

Knowing how to control your units remembering to spawn larvae, use mules, and chronoboosts is part of what seperates good from bad players. If your not a fan of the UI and arent very good you'll play against someone in the same boat and still have fun. But if you want to be good the tools are there.

For me controlling almost every apsect of what my units do is the entire fun and satisfaction of SC2. I am a firm believer that most games are too easy and this is why they have no lifespan. Starcraft isnt easy to become diamond level at. I stopped playing mw2 within 2 weeks because it was too easy I got all my nukes within two days.

The trick of blizzard games is to make them easy to get into but impossible to master. Its a fine line but they walk it very well.