You can spin it any way you want to but playing a football game is not going to change much. How do you make a football or basketball game feel new without changing the actual sports rules?channtheman1

Wait a few years..update graphics..let the features of 2-3 years combine to add to a more finished product..make the controls much more streamlined..give it competitive pro gaming features like replays and such...there is a lot that can be done

Well, I've played quite a few popular games such as Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike, WoW, Age of Empires, Starcraft, and others but I'm looking for something new..

What I mean by this is something that is sort of off the beaten path like a game such as gunbound (not sure if I should play it) or a certain mod like garry's mod..I know that PC gaming has something else out there to explore such as indie games or mods or other free games so hit me up with some suggestions..

thanks!

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[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"] I didn't find L4D lacking in content at all. Try Orange Box. Try TF2. TF2 is still getting content updates. 3 heroes? Woopty doo.GodLovesDead

TF2 is still getting content releases... content that should have been incuded ON RELEASE DAY, not YEARS after release at their current rate. I still remember the pod cast interview before release stating that there would be no grenades except demoman and pyro (and pyro apparently got ganked) but they would have weapon unlocks to make up for it. So essentially these aren't content releases, they are just taking forever to fix their game by fixing one class every 8-9 months and breaking other stuff as a result.

I think we as PC gamers are fortunate to have both of these developers focusing on the PC..even though valve is technically multiplay they are PC devs and I am happying to have both around to entertain me

gunbound?wicster

WINNER!

http://www.moddb.com/events/2008-mod-of-the-year-awards/top100

This is for 2008 and its a pretty good list but I'm looking for all the great mods over the years all in one place..thanks