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[QUOTE="Ant0n89"]3rd person shooter on PC....what are they thinking?FelipeInside

You can switch to FPS yah know :roll: I don't see what the big deal is about it being TP

Firefall is looking epic and seems to actually be better in thrid person. Plus we have a huge amount of good TPS games on PC. I am enjoying the Space Marine demo at the moment.

Havn't actually watched any gameplay, I did a quick search and I'm watching a 20 min quakecon video. I'm also waiting for Totalbiscuit to upload his gamescom video. It looks pretty epic and true to Tribes. Do we know what the F2P entitles? Like in TF2 or Quake live there is no downside to not paying. So will this be P2win or P2get a class? Or will it be F2P will optional microtransactions? Also no mod support doesn't mean no map making tools.

Guild Wars 2. Honestly, everyone remotely intrested in having fun should pick GW2 up on day 1 :)

Guild Wars 2 and DotA 2 and SMITE. Almost forgot. FIREFALL LOOKS FREAKIN EPIC!

OMG, OMGOMG, OMG,OMG, OMG,OMG, OMG! I can't wait!!! Man, I love watching starcraft 2 competetive play and I don't even own SC2. Can't wait to see some Esports of this and be able to play aswell :) I want more footage though. This surely will be the next E-sport

Hey, so while looking around the net I read something about dwarf fortress. I think it was on a "Minecraft copied..." thread on the minecraft forums and it stated minecraft copied alot of dwarf fortress. So intrested I went in search of Dwarf fortress. To my suprise it was free and so I downloaded it right away. Anyway, after getting so hyped when I got ingame I just looked at the screen going WTF? No it wasn't the graphics I was WTFing, it was how damn confusing this game looks. I'm not really into watching youtube video tutorials and considering its randomly generated its sort of pointless. So does anyone know of a good online written tutorial or just a huge information database? Thanks and hope theres some other dwarf fortress players here. Also, is dwarf fortress actually fun? I mean every game has someone who loves it so someone will say its fun but I play minecraft and small indie games and thats about it. So is it worth learning and playing?

www.quakelive.com With that kind of experience you shouldn't have too much trouble picking this up. Plus it is free. Plus any comp bought in the last 6-7 years can run it.

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Thanks, I'm glad to see a quake live playyer. I actually forgot to mention I have played QL. I find it SOOOO hard. I had 1 frag to 11 deaths and my kill came from spamming nades.

Hey guys! So I am having trouble choosing a Multiplayer FPS to buy. I have only played TF2 (1000 hours) BC2 (30 hours, wouldnt run great on my laptop and then punkbuster started kicking me :() and CoD 4 (Play it at my local game cafe when I go there). So TF2 is by far the funner of the 3 in my opinion, BC2 just didn't click and although I don't mind CoD 4, I dont see it being worth the $$$, plus I don't support Activision. So ATM I'm tossing up between buying Counter Strike Source/1.6, Red Orchestra 2 HOS or something else. So please tell me which fits me better, CS or RO2, or you can ever reccomend another FPS. Just keep in mind I play on a laptop that strugled to play BC2. I can play TF2 and I'm sure I could play CS and RO2. Thanks!

Okay, well HoN is more competetive and has more jackass elitists but becuase its more competetive its also funner in the right servers. LoL is more casual, it still has a jackass community but its a little calmer and less competetive. So theres the comparison. I can't say one game is better as I enjoy both equally in different situations. Also, if you enjoy HoN or LoL then you also might be intrested in DotA 2 being developed by "Icefrog" and Valve. For indie games just buy Minecraft. Theres a reason its the most sold Indie game EVER. Minecraft single player non-modded is fun and worth the $$$ but theres soo many mods for everything you could ever want modded that its silly not to use mods. Mods add ,on average, another 700 hours of fun. Also if you know anyone who has a minecraft server, then make sure you join it ASAP. Or even just join a multiplayer minecraft server with randoms. Multiplayer is just SOOO fun. I mean me and my freinds have a server and we have a whole Castle (Its takes around 16 minutes to just walk along the front wall) and we have a whole town. We have an economy where we get paid every day and making things cost money but if it helps the community we get paid for keeping it running. We have a tavern, a library, a bank, a store, an armoury ect. ITS JUST SOOOOOO FUN! As for an FPS with a great community, well I havn't played many FPS's but I have played CoD4, BC2 and TF2. TF2's community is by far the better of those 3. Theres jackasses but there are so many more nice people it doesnt matter. Oh and TF2 is FREE!. Just go onto steam and download it :) As for Dead Rising 2, well if you like making random weapons out of normal things and then killing zombies its worth the look. I hope you find one of those games fun and worth your $$$ :D

Perhaps you've seen the videos about some groundbreaking "unlimited detail" rendering technology? If not, check it out here, then get back to this post: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4

Well, it is a scam.

They made a voxel renderer, probably based on sparse voxel octrees. That's cool and all, but.. To quote the video, the island in the video is one km^2. Let's assume a modest island height of just eight meters, and we end up with 0.008km^3. At 64 atoms per cubic millimeter (four per millimeter), that is a total of 512000000000000000 atoms. If each voxel is made up of one byte of data, that is a total of 512 petabytes of information, or about 170000 three-terrabyte harddrives full of information. In reality, you will need way more than just one byte of data per voxel to do colors and lighting, and the island is probably way taller than just eight meters, so that estimate is very optimistic.

So obviously, it's not made up of that many unique voxels.

In the video, you can make up loads of repeated structured, all roughly the same size. Sparse voxel octrees work great for this, as you don't need to have unique data in each leaf node, but can reference the same data repeatedly (at fixed intervals) with great speed and memory efficiency. This explains how they can have that much data, but it also shows one of the biggest weaknesses of their engine.

Another weakness is that voxels are horrible for doing animation, because there is no current fast algorithms for deforming a voxel cloud based on a skeletal mesh, and if you do keyframe animation, you end up with a LOT of data. It's possible to rotate, scale and translate individual chunks of voxel data to do simple animation (imagine one chunk for the upper arm, one for the lower, one for the torso, and so on), but it's not going to look as nice as polygon based animated characters do.

It's a very pretty and very impressive piece of technology, but they're carefully avoiding to mention any of the drawbacks, and they're pretending like what they're doing is something new and impressive. In reality, it's been done several times before.

There's the very impressive looking Atomontage Engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gshc8GMTa1Y

Ken Silverman (the guy who wrote the Build engine, used in Duke Nukem 3D) has been working on a voxel engine called Voxlap, which is the basis for Voxelstein 3d: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1eMC9Jdsw

And there's more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUe4ofdz5oIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEHIUC4LNFEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9CiGJiZuc

They're hyping this as something new and revolutionary because they want funding. It's a scam. Don't get excited.

Or, more correctly, get excited about voxels, but not about the snake oil salesmen.

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