@itz_sinz: But horizon zero dawn isn't in this list. and that's the problem. The list does look dire. lets hope scorpio helps bring more exclusives forward.

@anthonyp452: That's the problem. Sony obviously have to sell 4K along with their TV's. Microsoft have to stay ahead.

I would have rather they used the extra horsepower for more Graphical enhancing options.

The wheels for 60fps gaming are in motion though so we shall see where the console gaming generation ends up.

@sellingthings: I suppose that is the issue with console gaming. I've managed to accept what a console can do and make do really.

I think 30fps for bit of casual gaming here and there I don't mind it. but it is refreshing to see the console developers trying to target higher fps gaming. problem being is that they want 4K at the same time. Doesn't help the cause. but perhaps they'll pull it off eventually.

Iv'e always got a decent enough PC when it comes to just playing everything at its best setting where possible. But then again I'm either playing the game fully immersed. or just whacking all settings up and just enjoying the visuals and the environment within specific games.

I can already see that console gaming will inevitably become as expensive as PC gaming to a certain extent. just to keep up.

@biggamerdude: You should be happy with 1080 @60fps, I am.

Its more creature comfort to be able to make use of my 4KTV at full resolution.

I think realistically if one is more about getting 4k @ 60+fps then PC gaming is the step to take.

@rlg5150: hmmm yep can't argue that you are an individual lacking any real sense of intelligence.

#dudebro

@biggamerdude: Resolution and Framerates are not tied together so regardless of fps. 4K will still look great in sense of detail and graphical fidelity. Frame rate just comes down to fluidity of motion and gameplay experience.

Yes what good is 4K when the framerates are horrible but 30 fps is perfectly acceptable when playing games anything less then its safe to say stick to 1080p. It's just down to what compromises will be made in the resolution or graphical settings to achieve higher frame rates.

P.s. 4K @60 frames per second is always going to be a better experience than 4K @30 Fps.

It's interesting to see such good things mentioned about Persona 5, Wasn't sure about the JRPG element but will definitely reconsider this one.

@rlg5150: Why do you think that is?

Unless the keyboard and mouse would have made the experience far less buggy and just a far more story rich full of life single player title.

I suppose this explains why there was no demo mode for the PC as they were quite confident that it'll be better on the PC....somehow.

@sam628: Why didn't you just edit your original posts rather than post several paragraphs?

Valid points though.

@sam628: Was going to say that you've been playing too much mass effect.

Deadspace was great in a small space station.