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#1 desmondsultanas
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Why don't you just say 'the shameless hypocrisy of fanboyism in general' and you'd be describing the majority of SW posts about everything.

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Because this goes beyond fanboyism.... third parties, and Sony/MS themselves publicly called motion controls a gimmick and a fad on numerous occasions, yet now they're bringing them to their consoles because they know they can't compete. It's cringe worthy to watch.
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#2 desmondsultanas
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The fact that threads like this are even being made after E3 09 is downright embarassing. Sony and MS needed to copy a "gimmick" to get out of second or third place? /thread
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#3 desmondsultanas
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[QUOTE="desmond sultanas"]For two years we had to hear how terrible Nintendo was for coming up with the idea to bring motion controls to home consoles, selling out going casual etc. but when MS and Sony decide to shamelessly copy Nintendo idea (rather than announce new first party games for their platform at E3), suddenly everyone attitude has changed. Even MS and Sony, who previously said that motion controls were a gimmick and balked at the direction Nintendo was taking. I saw absolutely nothing hardcore about Sony or MS's lame motion control demonstrations. No hardcore software announced for it either. Just what looks like the beginnings of party game and mini games. It looked just as bad a Ravi drums if not even more cringe worthy because they actually were copying an idea that Sony, MS and all of the fan boys previously laughed at. On the other Hand, Nintendo came armed with a new NSMB for the Wii, and exciting new Metroid game and an alliance with Team Ninja to make it, sequel to the 2007 GOTY Galaxy 2, and a promising partnership with Monolith software to bring RPG Monado. Back to the subject of motion controls, the Wii has sold over 50 million, it's already getting late in this console cycle, and Nintendo will be the first to bring 1:1 motion controls to the market in a couple of days. Here and now with real games. MS and Sony are walking into Nintendo's territory uninvited and it may get ugly for them. As funny as I find the hypocrisy of this board, I will find it even funnier if Natal and PS3's motion tech fails so I can see every one's attitude towards motion control suddenly change again. Don't tell me that we should celebrate MS and Sony's motion control because this is the first time we've seen non waggle motion controls. That's WRONG. Nintendo was the first to show true 1:1 motion controls at E3 2008. Don't tell me that MS and Sony motion controls should be celebrated just because they use a different method of motion control, they had too to do that to avoid copyright infringement. They are copying and we all know it.SragentThom

motion controls have been around before Nintendo used it.Just like touch controls.

Nintendo was the first to bring them to home consoles. To the above poster. Eyetoy was not a motion controller. It only recognized body movement on a 2d plane.
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[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]If motion control is a gimmick then why are MS and Sony copying?Tony-Baxter
Cause they copy gimmicks? What kind of question is that?

A gimmick implies it has no lasting appeal. If it had no lasting appeal why would its competitors be copying it three years later?
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#5 desmondsultanas
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They're still gimmicks. They're done better than what nintendo has done, but they're still gimmicks.

The difference is that they're not replacing standard controls. Thats why no one's mad. If Sony announced that all new games would have to be controlled by the motion controller, then people would be angry.

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I have a problem with you saying they're done better than Nintendo's with no actual software to prove this. Motion plus is here and has a bunch of big games for it lined up already and a huge userbase supporting it. Sony and MS have to release motion controls as peripherals this gen because otherwise they'd be cutting off the millions who already bought their console, but wait until next generation ;)
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#6 desmondsultanas
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If motion control is a gimmick then why are MS and Sony copying?
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#7 desmondsultanas
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Sony is like a man waiting for his execution in Japan Wii Black Wii bundled with Monster Hunter 3 + Wii Sports Resort = June NSMB Wii for Xmas DS DQIX being bundled with Red DS in Aug
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#8 desmondsultanas
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I said this would happen ages ago, but I really didn't think it would happen this soon. Microsoft and Sony are indeed joining the motion-race because they have to. Nintendo has changed the face of gaming.

However, I really don't see Sony or Microsoft completely taking away Nintnedo's momentum. Fact is, Nintnedo's install base is HUGE. Microsoft and Sony on the other hand are just getting started. And further more, Nintendo's first party software is top notch. They make the very best use of motion controls. Period.

Microsoft and Sony have a steeper climb at this than people really think.

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Not to mention that PS and 360 motion tech will be peripherals released late in the gen. They are doomed to failure going up against the Wii juggernaut this gen, but better luck next gen.
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#9 desmondsultanas
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[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]You sir are hereby, Ninja for the day! Well said.789shadow

Wrong. MS and Sony HAD TO come up with different methods of motion control to avoid copyright infringement. They are still copying and we all know it, they just had to find a different method to copy the same premise.

I didn't know Nintendo had a patent on motion control.

Of course they do.... their version of it anyway.
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#10 desmondsultanas
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Nintendo just basically killed Sony in Japan. Wii Sports resort coming out the same month lol