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@dinamo4ever: PS: just don't preorder this! keep i mind andromeda, anthem, and 76, 2077, and many other if we are not talking only about EA!
It's a digital copy. get it after a few days, not on release day or preorder because you will get screwed and the company will earn your money making shitty games!

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I would very much love the new ME and DA to be great games BUT (and i hope that "but" with one "t" will not be censored) we are talking about EA...

ME3 was a good game but a stupid ending (rushed)

MEA was bad

Anthem was bad

so... i don't know what to expect!

also EA is full of woke so this alone might ruin a great game!

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@letsgame82:you do realize that your doing the same thing, right?

you accuse CDPR of something based on nothing. you don't know if the investors did put pressure or not. and many others.

do don't give me that, ok?

We don't know what happens , we can only presume, The media also presumes, So we both tell our OPINIONS without any proof. ok?

My opinion is that CDPR is getting more hate than they deserve (base on what other companies got in similar or worst circumstances), that the investors are NOT the good guys or the victims (like many on this forum want them to be , apparently because is not a trend to have CDPR), I didn't say CDPR didn't messed up and I didn't say I had any proof . None of us had, but apparently some of you requires it just because the want to be left alone to just hate CDPR!

When I say "pretty sure" it should have been clear that I don't have any proof and you should not require any proof because I didn't claim to have any! You are so focused on hating CDPR (I'm not talking only about you), that you are just making up stuff as you go just so you don't have a reason to not hating CDPR...

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@yankeeallstars: that was for the people , not the investors...

Also that tactics is done buy basically every game company.

Here we talk about the investors, not the games. The fact that gamers where lied to is pretty obvious.

"Without the investor's money they wouldn't have the funding to make games, and if the company really did hide information from its investors causing them to lose money, then the investors have every right to sue them." - do you have any proof to make that accusation?! Do you have proof that the investors where lied to? That the investors really invested money? That they lost money? That they didn''t put pressure on CDPR to release the game early?!

Interesting how you demand proof from me , but you didn't provide any even so you are "sure" not "pretty sure" :P

CDPR messed up, i think that's what we agreed on BUT:

1 - they didn't messed up more like another companies that didn't receive this treatment (EA, hello games etc etc etc)

2 - the investors are also after the money, the can be liars, and they are not the "good guys". You seam to defend they actions even if you don't know if they did contribute to this mess or not!

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@yankeeallstars:

I can say I'm "pretty sure" that you didn't killed another human even if I don't have any proof. Because it's logical and statistically accurate.

You on the other hand just want to hate CDPR and anything that in a way defends them, if not ok for you.

Also I don't have to prove what I have written because I didn't claim to have any prove. I was just expressing MY OPINION (as you have done).

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@glaciusts: Yeah that's ridiculous... The fact that CDPR get's this treatment and EA, bethesda, WB, hello games, blizzard and many many others didn't! greedy investors, that's it! Probably they are not really "investors", just shareholders...

In all CDPR didn't do anything that many companies done before them! Sure that isn,t an excuse for them, but it's just another reason to wonder why they get sued and not the companies before them!

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@yankeeallstars: Do you have any proof they didn't?!

I said "I'm pretty sure" because I don't know. but based on what investors do in general, I can presume that they did that!

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@yankeeallstars: Do you really think that? I think the did not hide anything... just that the investors want more money. that's it!

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Invertors are one of the reason this game was rushed. I\m pretty sure they told CDPR to release it this year (stocks where down after the last delay) and not they want money? screw them! A bunch of hypocrites!

Also those lawsuit will make the price go even lower so the investors are at least in part at fault for the stock prices!

I hope no judge in his right mind will grant them the request! How many companies (in this fields or not) has similar issues in the past? I can't think of a company who did not! Imagine lawsuits made by the investors for MS XB1 launch, Samsung battery issue, VW diesel gate (they where sued by the government, not by the investors), BP and other companies which caused oil spill, every bad game launch (EA, WB. Blizzard etc etc etc)

This is really ridiculous! A lawsuit for the gamers? Sure! But the investors?! Why?! They exists because they should support the company when it's on profit or when is not! It comes with a risk!

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@zmanbarzel: welcome to software development

if you wait for a game/software to be bug free you will go bankrupt before you can release!