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@luxuryheart said:
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@elderlord99: Really? It seems like there's people who get upset whenever anything diverges from it.

Game developers and game journalists along with activist.

Most consumers hate modern western aesthetics.

This is a lie... I like to have this chart because it's a mix of the Japanese and Western aesthetic, showing that they're not much different. I suppose I could add Overwatch and Fortnite to the list...

I could probably guess which characters are from the west with 95% accuracy.

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@Pedro said:
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You say as you simply show an attractive woman in a skin tight suit...

I'd argue otherwise. Most of the gamers complaining don't really want cool and unique designs, or unique art styles. They simply want an attractive woman in a skimpy outfit. Which isn't that creative.

They don't give a shit about creativity. If they did, many of the games that are creative would be well received but instead we get the same thing over and over and over again.

What would you consider creative that wasn't well received?

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#3  Edited By Elderlord99
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@luxuryheart said:
@davillain said:

I almost forgot to mention that NetEase Games knows what their target audience really want out of character designs and it's no wonder why Concord failed to understanding that having fun and cool characters can bring in joy from most audience:

I didn't care much from any of the F4 cast but seeing them now, they made them look way cooler than the upcoming new F4 film that's coming soon. Invisible Woman is THICC👌

You say as you simply show an attractive woman in a skin tight suit...

I'd argue otherwise. Most of the gamers complaining don't really want cool and unique designs, or unique art styles. They simply want an attractive woman in a skimpy outfit. Which isn't that creative.

She looks true to the comics as most characters do. Those who grew up with the comics love it because these designs for the most part accurately represent what they remember.

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@Planeforger said:

This thread is the perfect example of why Culture Wars discussions should be banned or quarantined.

People were having a totally reasonable conversation about why this game struck gold as opposed to other hero shooters or Marvel games, and then the stupid crept in and strangled the life out of the discussion.

Mods, seriously, can we have a megathread about gender representation, so that all of this crap can go there and people can stop derailing threads?

Go to reset era you snowflake.

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@girlusocrazy said:

@elderlord99: Really? It seems like there's people who get upset whenever anything diverges from it.

Game developers and game journalists along with activist.

Most consumers hate modern western aesthetics.

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@girlusocrazy said:
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It's embarrassing how much better a chineese company is handling marvel characters vs us.. but it is what it is..

What did we do badly with marvel characters? The Spiderman and GotG games were well received, and I think Wolverine and Blade look like they will do well.

Anyway I guess this is good news for companies that want to do live service games... 😒

Western character designs are horrible . There was a video comparing the character designs of Marvels Avengers vs Marvel Rivals and the Avenger designs were god awful in comparison.

If they continue to do live service with their ( progressive) western designs the games will fail miserably

I guess there will continue to be love for both, some really dislike the eastern anime-like androgynous designs and idealize the western design aesthetics. There are arguments all the time on this board about the way things look so I guess there are strong opinions on all sides.

If you think about style and aesthetic, there will always be room for different approaches and it will be very difficult to get universal appeal unless you start to think about content for children where design can be very abstract. It can also be this way with movies and TV.

Maybe the higher the fidelity of graphics in games, the less abstract designs will become, and the more people will have arguments over this.

Like who? Game journalists? I don't know anyone who idolized modern western aesthetics. Even western developers had great designs 10 years ago. It's like they were forced into doing something and do it because they have to... but I don't really see anyone praising it.

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#8  Edited By Elderlord99
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@RSM-HQ: You should and here's why.

At the end of the day the goal of these companies is for you to own nothing and be reliant on them for everything. Microsoft is worth 2 and a half trillion dollars from their other business ventures. To give you an idea they have the assets to buy up every game publisher in the industry. I say that to let you know that they could lose over a billion dollars in their gaming division every quarter and it would be a drop in the bucket for them. So what happens if they decide to buy up the rest of the industry... EA, Ubisoft, etc? if it weren't for Japanese laws they would already own Capcom and Nintendo through hostile takeover.

So once they own up 90% of the gaming industry and there's no other options they just jack up the cost of GP to make it profitable and now your paying whatever they want to charge you because all the publishers are now owned by one company and there's not many other options out there anymore.

A lot of this is tin-foil theory, Xbox does like to buy studios that goes without question but every company they've grabbed was seeing a finical decline. Both Bethesda and Activision saw sales go down and the latter wanted to be bought-out, if Microsoft didn't buy Activision some other company would have, apparently Amazon was the runner-up. Bethesda hasn't really had a hit financially since 2011 so I'm not even shocked. Both companies are dying horses and Xbox is just making what they can off nostalgia from fools who think Call of Duty 57 & Elder Scrolls 6 will be worth it.

Activisions value dropped because of the scandals and law suites but they were not in financial trouble. It wasn't like they needed a buyout to survive. At the time they were the largest third party publisher in the industry.

My point is all these mega corps would love to put everything on a subscription service because once they have that it doesn't matter if their games are garbage because you will continue to pay your monthly fee. Just like most people keep paying for Netflix eventhough much of their stuff is garbage.

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#9  Edited By Elderlord99
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@RSM-HQ: You should and here's why.

At the end of the day the goal of these companies is for you to own nothing and be reliant on them for everything. Microsoft is worth 2 and a half trillion dollars from their other business ventures. To give you an idea they have the assets to buy up every game publisher in the industry. I say that to let you know that they could lose over a billion dollars in their gaming division every quarter and it would be a drop in the bucket for them. So what happens if they decide to buy up the rest of the industry... EA, Ubisoft, etc? if it weren't for Japanese laws they would already own Capcom and Nintendo through hostile takeover.

So once they own up 90% of the gaming industry and there's no other options they just jack up the cost of GP to make it profitable and now your paying whatever they want to charge you because all the publishers are now owned by one company and there's not many other options out there anymore.