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#1  Edited By Elderlord99
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@Pedro said:
@davillain said:

We certainly have opinions. I've said it many times here, I'm a GS user first before a Moderator! I want to give everyone a fair shot, a fair chance.

All I'll say is this. I'd advice on taking this concern to the higher ups as we're now seeing culture stuff becoming part of a game development/news. I really don't know what else to tell you all as we mods don't normally have a saying but rest assure, this isn't GamerGate BS from what' we're seeing. If anything, it kinda does bring in interesting discussions.

But yes, DToast is the correct person to go but really, just don't bother to come to these kinds of discussion. What you say @TheEroica & @xantufrog?

It is GamerGate 2.0 with even more prejudice than before. If interesting discussion means giving a voice to hate speech, then. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Lol what a snowflake 🤣

Just noticing something is to much for people like you.

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#2  Edited By Elderlord99
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@Pedro: I'm not sure how that's racist. Either way next time you see an Egyptian ask if they consider themselves.. " Black" and maybe you will understand.

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#3  Edited By Elderlord99
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@Pedro said:
@elderlord99 said:

Black generally refers to Sub-Saharan African and several other cultures. Someone from India may have dark skin but they would not be referred to as black just as lite skinned Asians are not considered white.

Not sure how cultures relates to being black though but anyone who is from sub-saharan Africa is considered black? Folks that look black in the Americas are not black because they not from Sub-Saharan Africa?🤔

This sub-saharan classification was made by another poster. It is interesting that this alt account is using the same terminology.🙃

The Sub-Saharan classification is a classification. I didn't make it up.

It's people with genetics from Here. When I'm referring to cultures I'm talking about places with genetics linked to these areas such as Hati or Jamaica.

The reason we don't just say African is because Northern Africans often identifies as Arab or Middle-Eastern

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#4  Edited By Elderlord99
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@Pedro said:
@elderlord99 said:

There's more to being black then having darker skin.

Care to elaborate on this?🤔

Black generally refers to Sub-Saharan African and several other cultures. Someone from India may have dark skin but they would not be referred to as black just as lite skinned Asians are not considered white.

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#5  Edited By Elderlord99
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@luxuryheart said:
@Jag85 said:
@elderlord99 said:
@luxuryheart said:

Griffith has feelings for Guts. Their dynamic was based on a BL Shoujo series called Kaze to Ki no Uta.

Casca is black. Though I like how you imply a black woman can't be attractive. 🤔

He admires and respects him... that's different then sexual feelings.

Casca is 100% not black she is literally a brown skinned Asian women or possibly Hispanic. Since Berserk takes place in a fictional midevil setting she resembles the Portuguese or darker skinned Spaniards. Her being attractive has nothing to do with her race but more about her feminine qualities. She is tough and capable but not masculine like modern western female heroes.

Casca has dark brown skin, which would indicate she's either African, South Asian, or Middle-Eastern. She's most likely based on the "Moors" who ruled Spain, Portugal and southern Italy in medieval times.

But you see, that presents a tiny problem. If Casca were black, he'd have two options:

1. Admit that a black woman, even if she's fictional, was attractive. Oh the horror!

2. Since she's black and he can't find her attractive at all, then he must say that Japan created an ugly character. Oh the horror!

What will the grifters do?!

The only problem that's being presented is you have no idea what your talking about. There's more to being black then having darker skin. Casca has no black phenotype or characteristics

To Jags point he mentions the Moors who were a mix of Arabs and blacks who ruled over southern Spain and Portugal for 800 years until the Nothern half drove them out. To this day Spaniards look either white( Northern Spaniard ancestory) or have European characteristics with darker skin( Morrish ancestr mixed with European Spanish). That's the closest you could say for Casca being black.

To your other point it's just ridiculous.

1.Storm is a fictional black female who in the Jim Lee era and most comic eras is beautiful. In her recent incarnation in Marvel Rivals and Xmen 97 she is very attractive . I have no issue finding any women attractive based off her race.

2. My first point proved this to be nonsense

Do you even know what a grifter is? A grifter says things they don't believe for profit. Am I getting paid for this on Gamespot?

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#6  Edited By Elderlord99
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@luxuryheart said:
@Pedro said:

@luxuryheart: It is almost like race swapping is fine when it is other to white.🤔 I am shocked.😏

It's only an issue now, because of grifters. Cinderella by Whitney Houston was a great time. Several characters were race swapped. The prince's mom was race swapped to black, the prince was race swapped to Asian, Cinderella was race swapped to black, the Fairy Godmother was race swapped to black, and one of the step sisters was race swapped to black:

It made no sense that a white man and a black woman had an Asian son, but we didn't care. We just enjoyed the movie. A movie like this couldn't be released in modern times, that's for sure.

Nobody cared because nobody watched that trash 🤣. That was a low budget made for tv movie.

However when you do it on a movie with a global launch and a 300 million dollar budget you start to see the consequences.

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@luxuryheart said:
@Pedro said:

@luxuryheart: Folks will lose their minds. Especially grown men, which is the core demographic.🙃

EDIT: Let's make the fairy god mother...a black man.😏

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It was so weird to see white men pretend to care about a movie about a mermaid from a movie aimed at little girls. They even pretended that the boys played owned The Little Mermaid toys. The Little Mermaid release was definitely ahead of my time when it released, but Disney had a strong brand with the Disney Princesses that persisted even when I was a little girl. Boys didn't buy into the mermaid or Disney princess brand. The closest they got to caring about mermaids was pirates, with Pirates of the Caribbean and Peter Pan, stuff like that. I don't remember a boy ever caring about Ariel or owning a figurine.

The Little Mermaid originally released in 1989, so late 80s and early 90s. I remember the 80s culture being all rock and roll, and the movies were super macho. For some reason, I can't picture a boy of that time period owning an Ariel figurine. Especially since, once again, before the 2010s, a boy being feminine or seen as gay was a bad thing (80s musicians aside because the 80s was a weird time where the musicians were metro sexual, but the movies were macho and ultra masculine).

Well whoever the audience it was aimed for didn't care much about it either. The Little Mermaid remake flopped. They spent more money marketing in then any other live action adaptation.

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#8  Edited By Elderlord99
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@luxuryheart said:
@elderlord99 said:
@Pedro said:
@luxuryheart said:

Ironically, I have a bias to Japanese games for the opposite reason. When I was a little girl, Japanese games were more likely to have playable female characters. From what I remember, a lot of the Western games tended to have male protagonists, usually white. Even then, I still had Western made games I enjoyed, male or female protagonist. Despite Fable, on the original Xbox, having a male protagonist, I enjoyed that game. I also enjoyed Fighting Force, a Western game, because it allowed me the choice of two women. My sister liked Mace, while I was an Alana player.

I miss when the anti-woke discussions were rather niche. The people around me, and even in popular media, never talked about how woke a game was, or anything. We just played games. The closest there was to a discussion like that, was my older brother saying he wouldn't play Talim from Soul Calibur, because she wasn't attractive enough. Basically, she didn't have a butt as big as the other characters. That was it for that discussion. Nowadays, everyone hyper focuses on what a character is. It's very weird.

The gender, ethnicity, sexuality or "historical accuracy" were not a talking points in gaming until folks were told that it was an "issue" and like well behaved followers, they listened and followed. These gamers started off with disingenuous takes to mask to the origin of their bullshit to now mask-less hate speech. I am not too surprised by the behavior. Groups of privilege are typically quick to tantrums and playing the victim card. However, I wasn't expecting certain members on the forum to be so susceptible to pretty basic brainwashing strategies. I guess I expected too much from this community.😂

Or maybe everybody just got tired of the constant race swaps.

I'm not sure how people with your viewpoint could call anyone brainwashed when it sounds like game journalists and activist share the same brain.

And playing the victim card? These developers have their shitty designs criticized after their game fails and they call any criticizim harassment.

Race swaps have been around forever. Even in reverse, where a POC was swapped to white. No one cares then.

Game devs have always made bad games, even before diversity was a thing.

POC's are rarely swapped now yet whites particularly gingers are routinely swapped.

Yes, but they didn't let modern agendas ruin successful IP's.

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#9  Edited By Elderlord99
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@luxuryheart said:
@elderlord99 said:
@luxuryheart said:
@elderlord99 said:

The male characters in Manga are less androgynous and are generally classified today as what we would call " pretty boys". Even to this day K pop stars strive for that look in real life because regardless of how you want to classify them they are generally considered attractive. Compare that to the west where the focus is on masculine women which is something that isn't considered appealing in any culture.

Japan is the one that made the masculine female character, popular. They invented the "girl prince" trope in the 50s. Once again, Princess Knight:

This is the series inspired Rose of Versailles, which inspired a lot of the legendary anime from back in the day.

Rose of Versailles inspired Berserk. And Griffith's design, your pretty boy that ain't androgynous, was inspired by a female character. Griffith was also a bisexual character, and the main ship is an interracial couple:

If a Western dev had made a game inspired by Berserk, y'all would call it woke trash. Because it was made by a Japanese guy, y'all gloss over the woke content. A black female tomboy in a Western game is woke. A black female tomboy in a manga series is peak design.
If a Western dev had made a game inspired by Berserk, y'all would call it woke trash. Because it was made by a Japanese guy, y'all gloss over the woke content. A black female tomboy in a Western game is woke. A black female tomboy in a manga series is peak design.

Nobody in the west knows who Princess Knight is... that is not what you would classify as popular.

Berserk is my favorite Manga of all time. Again it's not that bisexuality in entertainment is an issue but how the West portrays any group they deem as " marginalized ".

Griffith being bisexual is a small part of his character and the only reason they show it is because it shows Griffith will literally do anything for power. It doesn't even imply he's attracted to men he just let an old man screw him as a boy because he knew it would get him one step closer to his goal which was to have his own kingdom and he was willing to sacrifice anything to get it including his dignity, morals and the ones he loves.. that was the the entire purpose of the scene... if it were done in the west he would have a sit down meeting with his parents at the dinner table to come out of the closet 🤣

Also I'd hate to tell you but Casca isn't black... and she is also designed in way that most men would consider her extremely physically attractive.

Griffith has feelings for Guts. Their dynamic was based on a BL Shoujo series called Kaze to Ki no Uta.

Casca is black. Though I like how you imply a black woman can't be attractive. 🤔

He admires and respects him... that's different then sexual feelings.

Casca is 100% not black she is literally a brown skinned Asian women or possibly Hispanic. Since Berserk takes place in a fictional midevil setting she resembles the Portuguese or darker skinned Spaniards. Her being attractive has nothing to do with her race but more about her feminine qualities. She is tough and capable but not masculine like modern western female heroes.

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@elderlord99: yes they are.

So the COD and Madden crowd that don't own switches are buying Nintendo games?