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#1 eno_crux
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I do find it pleasantly predictable that the further we get into Obama's term as president, more people are starting to change their tune about Bush. 6 months ago he was "the worst ever". Now he's decent, to good, to a great leader that kept us safe. You never heard this stuff on hear until recently. :)

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I've always had that mindset. Although, I was a neither in Election 2008, if I could have voted

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I do find it pleasantly predictable that the further we get into Obama's term as president, more people are starting to change their tune about Bush. 6 months ago he was "the worst ever". Now he's decent, to good, to a great leader that kept us safe. You never heard this stuff on hear until recently. :)

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#3 eno_crux
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truth is God, like the republican party, helps those who help themselves
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#4 eno_crux
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[QUOTE="Pyro767"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] That's not explaining at all how the stimulus package that he signed in 2008 caused anything. All you did was spew some conservative talking points. -Sun_Tzu-

That's what his stimulus package did though. If it did anything except spend millions in tax payer dollars. And those aren't conservative talking point you speak of are no longer conservative, the two political parties are the same now.

Ok, but you haven't explained how spending millions in tax payer dollars led us to our economic situation. And they are conservative talking points. Whether or not they are Republican talking points is another thing entirely.

Gm was bailed out and they're still failing, now part of gm belongs to the govn't but in that case aren't those my cars? If the govn't sells em cheaper monopoly and it's bad ~ too much power to an anarchy If they over price em where's the money going
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[QUOTE="Pyro767"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]But even if he did,they can still overide him. Thats politics and knowledge of the branches of the government. Its still not his or anyone including obama in the highest offices fault. they are figureheads. there job si to keep us debating this while the other branches do things and by teh time we realize its over becaue we are dabating this ****. I do not often debate politics but I know my ****.mattykovax
Yes, well the President used to be the person with the power to make decisions that reflect the interests of the county. If the president won't take charge and the other branches of government take over, then we're pretty much screwed aren't we?

Actually he never was. Our country was set up so one man could only oversee but never take charge. Kind of how we just rebelled at the time agains monarchy. So your understanding of american democratic government is wrong. the branches were set like that on purpouse,nothing new. When you figure out how it works the come back and lambast any president you want.

We live in an anarchy and we don't even know it, yet when is the last time anyone really did anything, we all just follow it for fear something bad will happen
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#6 eno_crux
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[QUOTE="BayAreaX"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Exactly what I said after editing.:P Obama is still blaming Bush like a child. Every time Obama falters in his term it will always be Bush's fault. I seriously don't like Obama's mentality as president.

Pirate700

dont most presidents blame the previous admin every now and then

Not like Obama is doing. He is ALWAYS talking about how he has to clean up Bush's "mess". It's absolutely despicable. He needs to start taking the reigns and stop point the finger. All he's doing is building up the blam on Bush for when all his (Obama's) spending blows up in his face. It will still be "Bushes Fault".

Information is misleading coming from misleading media
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Pyro767"] I'm wide awake and fairly peppy. That veto power you mentioned is the most powerful ability available to anyone in the country, and you know what? He didn't stop that stimulus package that sent us into a downward economic spiral. He could have stopped it easily, but he didn't.Pyro767
But even if he did,they can still overide him. Thats politics and knowledge of the branches of the government. Its still not his or anyone including obama in the highest offices fault. they are figureheads. there job si to keep us debating this while the other branches do things and by teh time we realize its over becaue we are dabating this ****. I do not often debate politics but I know my ****.

Yes, well the President used to be the person with the power to make decisions that reflect the interests of the county. If the president won't take charge and the other branches of government take over, then we're pretty much screwed aren't we?

Democratic goven't is socialist ~ all is democratic we're shunted!
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#8 eno_crux
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[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Boy aint that the truth.

Pirate700

I believe our current President is trying to still blame things on Bush, instead of taking responsibility

Exactly what I said after editing.:P Obama is still blaming Bush like a child. Every time Obama falters in his term it will always be Bush's fault. I seriously don't like Obama's mentality as president.

Oh the Humanity!
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#9 eno_crux
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"] Many just find it easier to blame Bush. Sad but trueOblivionfan10

Boy aint that the truth.

I believe our current President is trying to still blame things on Bush, instead of taking responsibility

i believe the media is doing this
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#10 eno_crux
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I think he was the same as most presidents. A figurehead that takes the heat and the blame for what the congress,senate,and his own administration does,and than has to take the heat and deal with other world leaders like he is important when he has nothing but a veto and controll of the armed forces IF the other branches approve war. Just like ALL presidents. People wake up.mattykovax
Agreed