[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

Worst online service in existance. I only tolerate it becasue of DoW 2 and Red Faction Guerilla (i might buy gears from its marketplace, but i won't be thrilled about it).

ohthemanatee

The fact that we have to use it.

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

What is funny about GFWL is that it used to have an annual fee until only recently (a year or two ago), much like XBL, but due to PC owners essentially boycotting it, it's now free. lol.

ohthemanatee

And thats where PC gamers and 360 gamers differ. Principle and moral. I wish 360 gamers could have the balls to boycott XBL but its a snowball now and its pretty much normal to pay for console P2P gaming to them.

could you go a full year without paying online?

I wouldnt buy a 360 to begin with based on principle and moral reasons, but like I said, its a snowball and cant be stopped. Hopefully next generation, XBL fails miserably and P2P gaming becomes free like it should be.

What is funny about GFWL is that it used to have an annual fee until only recently (a year or two ago), much like XBL, but due to PC owners essentially boycotting it, it's now free. lol.

SolidTy

And thats where PC gamers and 360 gamers differ. Principle and moral. I wish 360 gamers could have the balls to boycott XBL but its a snowball now and its pretty much normal to pay for console P2P gaming to them.

TLDR entire post. If youre saying Wii will have motion sensing built from the ground up and the Move will have motion sensing as an after thought then youre right.

It is not the greatest service, but it is free to play online and that is the most important thing.

Valiant_Rebel

Online PC gaming is supposed to be free. Microsoft tried making people pay for GFWL at one point but failed.

I love it!

KillerJuan77

Why?

gfwl:steam::bing:google - a crappy little wannabe brother.paullywog

LOL. Bing is useless as well. I just free load off their cashback.

i swear i have no idea what's the point of it. fallout 3 is supposedly a "Game for Windows Live", and i have no idea what it is.BrunoBRS

I think its Microsofts version of Steam but its so useless that I just use Steam. Every time I play GTA 4 or Fallout 3, I have to login to GFWL. And your save data is connected to that account. Stupid as hell.

GTA 4 requires me to log into Steam, then Rockstar Social Club, then GFWL. WTF???

Here are my thoughts. Its absolutely useless just like all the other proprietary BS that we have to install like Rockstar Social Club. Its just another thing I have to install and never use. My question is, why do developers implement it? Do they get paid by Microsoft? It definitely doesnt prevent piracy.

And please do not confuse this with XBL. This is strictly a PC thing.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Ps3 could always use mouse/KB, it's just up to the devs to implement it.

coltgames

Then its cheating.