Not really. But it doesnt look like the tires are actually gripping the road. It looks like the cars are just moving on ice. Ive always noticed this effect with GT games and I have heard people talk about it.

:55 mark.

They weren`t on the disc :?93soccer

The first four were. Not sure about the rest.

http://kotaku.com/5479318/bad-company-2s-pre+owned-sales+stifling-dlc-revealed

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You are aware that the budget of the extra maps probably wasn't part of the budget of the game right? The extra maps were never intended to be part of the game, you wouldn't have got them and they wouldn't have been created if their purpose wasn't to be sold. All this day one whining is pointless, you're all speculating like they would have given them to you for free, they clearly wouldn't have.

ActicEdge

It doesnt take a genius to notice how every extra "map" is just a variation of an existing one. It doesnt take a genius to suspect or come to the conclusion that these maps were completed at the time of release. It takes something else to think DICE put in extra time to make us happy when they were working on MOH and BF3.

And some of these maps were on the disc (first 4). So obviously they were within the budget. DICE just didnt want to give them to us yet.

No duh the maps were created at the time of release. But if they were free what the hell is your problem? Whether it was a tactic or not its not like it cost you a penny. And the maps being on the disk does not prove they were withing budget because as I said, perhaps they want to avoid PSN or XBLA fees like bandwith and space etc. We don't know, you're just assuming you speculation is right which is not proper.

"No duh the maps were created at the time of release." I think Ill stop here.

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Let me ask some of you something. What the hell is the difference between the DLC being on the disk or not? Would youprefer they don't put it on the disk even if its finished just to make you feel better? Would you rather waster your time, HD spaceand bandwidth downloading it instead?

ActicEdge

You miss the point. If the content was finished at time of release you should get it as part of the game. DLC should not mean pay full price for half a game and then pay again for the 'DLC' other half.

You are aware that the budget of the extra maps probably wasn't part of the budget of the game right? The extra maps were never intended to be part of the game, you wouldn't have got them and they wouldn't have been created if their purpose wasn't to be sold. All this day one whining is pointless, you're all speculating like they would have given them to you for free, they clearly wouldn't have.

It doesnt take a genius to notice how every extra "map" is just a variation of an existing one. It doesnt take a genius to suspect or come to the conclusion that these maps were completed at the time of release. It takes something else to think DICE put in extra time to make us happy when they were working on MOH and BF3.

And some of these maps were on the disc (first 4). So obviously they were within the budget. DICE just didnt want to give them to us yet.

Let me ask some of you something. What the hell is the difference between the DLC being on the disk or not? Would youprefer they don't put it on the disk even if its finished just to make you feel better? Would you rather waster your time, HD spaceand bandwidth downloading it instead?

ActicEdge

It makes the difference is that they had the "maps" completed but just didnt give them to us. It makes an even bigger difference that the "maps" are actually on the disc, within your reach but you cant have them because DICE wants to give them to you later so that it seems like they care about the community.

By locking out on-disc map variations and releasing them at a later time bit by bit to make it seem like theyre Valve. Now that theyve released all the "new maps" that we should have gotten on day 1, they say "Weve done our job. We gave you guys a bunch of DLC. No more free maps". Very dirty and obvious. I think its sad that there are people who turn the blind eye and defend DICE. Discuss.

Its sad that the community can be split on this issue. So many people missing the point. Makes me question humanity.

Why did you bring up Kinect? SW forgot about that trash. I havent seen it mentioned in ages.

Cool.

Awesome huh?

The BC2 levels of destruction was not based off of this video. There are several other videos (which I have posted before) that show the destruction you dod with the wasp on the oil rigs. You pretty much shot the entire things apart and made them collapse.TheMISCMan48

Thats one part of the SP campaign. BC2 level of destruction is leveling an entire map which I once did in BC2, not collapsing some oil rigs.