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#1 escapeoftheape
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I think I can summarize the OP in two words - "stranger danger!" am I right?

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did you watch the videos i posted? i think the danger that concerns me the most is the 1/3 of families in malmö that are victims of immigrant fueled crime every year.. like i said, i have many friends who are both 1. and 2. generation immigrants. to answer your question, no, youre not right. you are in fact very far from it.

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does anyone have anything theyd like to say regarding the matter? whats your conception of all this?
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So, to begin with i just want to say that im not a racist at all and i oppose racism very strongly.. i come from norway and none of my 5 best friends are norwegian. in fact, two of them are muslims. the school i go to has 6 classes consisting purely of foreigners, and the other classes have a lot of them as well. i am always around foreigners, but despite of this, i have not yet quite managed to make up my mind regarding my countrys immigration and integration policies.

generally, i am conceived as quite left-winged and i know some of my political views would make many of the americans on this board cringe. today, however, the subject i want to discuss is immigration. more specifically, muslim immigration.

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norway has very liberal immigration politics, and oslo, the capital of norway, has an immigrant share of 27%. its the fastest growing capital in scandinavia, and one of the fastest growing cities in all of europe, solely due to immigration, mostly from the third world. from 1970 to 2007, the ethnic Norwegian population in oslo decreased by 10.1% while the immigrant population increased by 823.6%. by year 2025, the immigrant share of oslo is estimated to be 40%.

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in fact, today, 40% of people below 18 in oslo have an immigrant background. this number was 31% 9 years ago, which means an increase of 1% each year. 56 schools have over 50% immigrants and there are already 9 schools in the capital that have more than 90% foreigners. by year 2021, norwegian students will be no longer be a majority in the schools of oslo.

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here is a link to a news article regarding the matter http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/elevavisen/artikkel.php?artid=591839 its in norwegian, but it includes a map over all schools in oslo and their immigrant share. it should also be said that oslo has a very high crime rate. in fact, it has 4 times as many reported crimes as new york per capita and its also been labeled as the "overdose capital of europe". now, one might ask oneself if the big proportion of immigrants is the reason for this, or if its the fact that 11% of the cities inhabbitants have an islamic background. it all depends on which conception you have of non-western immigrants influence on western societies. im not going to terrorize you with my personal opinions yet, as i simply havent completely made one up quite yet. i may also add that Rotterdam, the second biggest city of Holland, has an immigrant share of 50%, and statistics show that 55% of all moroccan boys over the age of 18 in the city have been in contact with the police.

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now, watching the situation in my neighbouring country of sweden is admitedly making me quite worried. stockholm, the capital of sweden, already has an immigrant share of 38% and malmö, the third biggest city, is 40% immigrants. 25% of malmös population are muslims. Rosenborg, a borough within the city of malmö, has an immigrant share of 93%. so, before we start discussing this subject id like to provide some videos for you to watch.. only to get a sense of which kind of issues we are facing here.

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the following two videos show the situation in rosengråd, malmö.

video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnP-XzB_U0

video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBpVAj4ILM

this third video shows some muslims intents for the future of the UK.

video 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F49kogA9Jb4

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so, whats you guys take on all this? should we keep taking in these people? is it really the right thing to do? is it our fault that these problems are occuring, maybe because we dont do a good enough job at implementing our new countrymen? do you believe that the fact that someone is of an islamic background make them more likely to commit a crime?

really, what are we supposed to do? i hope we can get a good dicussion going now, people :) just remember to keep it clean, no racism or any foul language! and thanks for taking your time, if you read everything i wrote and watched the videos! i really appreciate your attention.

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europe being more free than the us? get out of town!Atheists_Pwn
american patriotism mixed with ignorance often has a tendency to make me want to throw up.
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#5 escapeoftheape
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why the heck would i be proud of having been born a certain place.. if anything, i should be the proudest and most suck up dude ever as i come from Norway which literally tops all lists concerning wealth, living standards, freedom etc. but honestly, i dont see the logic in being proud of anything but personal achievements. maybe im just weird..
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#7 escapeoftheape
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:P. That was worth it. I've actually seen those cars drive around. Are they scheduled or something? How to people know when they're going to be there?cd_rom
i actually live in Bergen and i read an interview with the scooba divers in a local newspaper :) they said that they knew the guy who was going to drive the car or something along those lines.. so they decided to have some fun ^^
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the Russian hip hop artist Timati OWNS pretty much any american artist who makes the same kind of music.. Timati - Moscow Never Sleeps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlgrsUwUn_Q also, russian sounds so much better than english when rapped.. its a shame hes not as popular as he could have been, though.
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#9 escapeoftheape
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haha.. im from norway as well. ive NEVER heard of a norwegian 20 year old who hasnt drunk/been to a party before. where the heck do you live!? in fact, its hard to even find 16 year olds here who hasnt had loads of experience..

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#10 escapeoftheape
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wow youre 20 and have never been to a party before? thats crazy. how fast you get drunk depends on how big you are.. if youre normal and its your first time, id say four 0,5 l beers is enough to get tipsy but still maintain controll (basically, itd just make you more fun and a little more daring). remember that if you mix drinks youll get even more drunk. if you eat candy and drink at the same time chances are youll throw up. try eating salt stuff. i also think its smart to drink as it makes it easier to approach chicks. theyll probably have drunk themself, so yeah.. being sober when everyone else are drunk really sucks.