Dude was a coward. Just like all the mass killer shooters. They don't have the eggs to shoot out people who can shoot back. He shot threeto five people out right and then asked the manager to open the safe. He didn't even let her begin the combo before he shot her. It wasn't at the MALL by the way it was at the Von Maur Store. 6 of the 8 were employees of Von Maur. The other two were customers of the store.

The Von Maur store is still closed by the way. The Von Maur family is paying everyones salary till the store reopens. Kinda nice don't you think?

what will america be like? overtaxed, thats what.Hom3_Pwn3r

We can't affor the Bush tax cuts. We can't affor the Bush tax cuts. We can't affor the Bushtax cuts.

Hillary is proposing national health care. She says the repel of the tax cuts would help fund it. Uhhhhh. didn't you just say we couldn't afford the tax cuts. How are we going to fund the universal health plan if we don't have any money to do it in the first place. Its like well I can't really afford a Happy Meal at mcds so I'm going to Ruth's Chris.

TAX TAX TAX. Reorganization of Americas wealth. Socialist agenda. The government knows how to spend your money better than you do.

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[QUOTE="Theempire30"]I was hoping for people to explain to me why they see this as good things to believe in.Theempire30

So you point out the bad points in the Bible yet not the good, well done. What about the 10 commandments? Are those bad in your mind to.

Thats exactly whats wrong with god, He tells thou shalt not kill and look at him killing so many innocent.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]People consider it silly because it does not agree with evolution. Anything that doesn't is an ignorant douche bag these days; Didn't ya hear?:roll:Decessus

There are three types of people who believe evolution to be false; the ignorant, the unintelligent, and the deceitful.

You either believe evolution to be false because you simply don't know any better because you haven't done any of the research, for whatever reason you are not intelligent enough to understand the evidence presented, or you are purposefully being misleading because you have an ulterior motive that does not involve finding the truth.

Evolution is a fact. Evolution is the change in the allele frequency of a population over time. That this happens is indisputable and is as much a fact as water being wet and ice being cold.

Evolution should not be confused with the theory of evolution. They are two entirely different things. The theory of evolution is essentially an explanation as to how evolution occurs. It deals with natural selection, gene flow, genetic drift, ect. and how much each one of these mechanisms affects the overall evolution of a population.

One of the implications of the theory of evolution and evolution in general is that we are all descended from a common ancestor. Of course this is the part that most monotheists have a problem with. It's a pretty big contradiction to biblical creation if humans and apes both evolved from a common ancestor. The theory of common decent however is just as much supported by scientific evidence as anything else in science that gets classified as a theory. In fact, this theory is one of the most supported theories in all of science. There is a reason that the theory of evolution is considered the cornerstone of modern biology.

If I thought it would do any good, I would gladly show you irrefutable evidence that shows the common ancestory between apes and humans, but it would just be a waste of time. Most people simply do not want to open up their minds to the possibility that a belief that they have held onto for most of their lives could in fact be erronous and in need of serious alterations. I personally do not believe in God, but I do know that the theory of evolution and the idea of there being a God are not mutually exculsive. You simply do yourself an injustice, and you do your faith an injustice, when you continue to argue against established scientific principles.

My best friend was a chemical engineer/analyst with HP's (agilent) life science division for over 15 years. He used to repair dupont's, oak ridge andmajor hospital's (eg Vanderbuilt) equipment. Most recently hetraveled last year to Mongolia to help the government set up an analysis program for the country's imported vetenarian medicines. HeCHOSE go on that two week trip because China was sending fake or half strength medicine into Mongolia and the their animals were dying.Oh by the way he's a evangelical christian doesn't belief in evolution but creationism. your right he's probably, ignorant, unintelligent. Oh he has to be decietful because he "deceived" HP (their VP because thats who he presented to in Japan) into giving a fellowship to a university so he obtain a doctorate.

Your post above ispuredogma.

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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]People consider it silly because it does not agree with evolution. Anything that doesn't is an ignorant douche bag these days; Didn't ya hear?:roll:yoshi-lnex

Science is overrated. Amirite?

Not overrated. Just transformed into a dogmatic system.

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because of 2 reasons that I can think of

1: no scientific evidence for a young earth, and lots of scientific evidence for an old earth

2: the people who believe it (myself might be included) believe it strictly on faith

ProudLarry

Here's a decent site for some research. http://www.arn.org/

"Providing accessible information on science, technology, and society from an intelligent design perspective."

When you establish the bias before you establish the facts, no one trusts your factual accuracy.

Actually thats not how it works at all, and you should never have a bias in the Scientific Method.

The Scientific method should work by gathering up research and information about a topic. Then after looking over all of it, you come up with a hypothesis for why something is the way it is, or works the way it works. AFterwards you continue to gather up information and research, but not just information that supports your hypothesis, but ALL information, even if it seemingly doesn't work with your current hypothesis.

This is the part that seperates real science from pseudoscience like Young Earth Creationism and Intelligent Design. Pseudoscience, instead of looking at the big picture and all of the evidence, cherry picks little bits of evidence, and holds them up as proof for thier "theories", or something that disprooves real scientific theories.

After you collect more information you then need to see if your hypothesis should be modified in order explain the topic better. Its very possible at this point that you might find that your hypothesis just can't explain the topic well enough or that there are large portions that it just can't explain, and you may just have to throw it out alltogehter.

However if gathering more evidence continues to confirm your hypothesis and you can modify it to explain more information and in better detail, and others can repeat the whole process you jus attempted and come to the same conclusion, only then can you call your hypothesis a Theory.