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#1 frannkzappa
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Yet another reason why scarcity based economics is no longer needed.

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You realise Yog Sothoth could destroy the entire concept of reality just by farting right?

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I fully support this if true. Israel is one of the three nations capable of forming the ideal government, and this shows they are well on their way to reaching that goal. We (the US) should learn from this.

If Israel would break the shackles of democracy and adopt a more technocratic government they would be well on their way to becoming the ideal nation state.

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Works for me. Bring world war 3!TheWalkingGhost

Who is going to be on syrias side?

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Hope this doesn't escalate into more hellfire and tomahawks of freedom.

..or someone else getting involved

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I'm not gonna lie... i've got a man-crush on Putin.

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I fully support this if true. Israel is one of the three nations capable of forming the ideal government, and this shows they are well on their way to reaching that goal. We (the US) should learn from this.

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]The thing is i don't support a pure meritocracy. Meritocracy is important but not the most important. In the system I support the meritocracy would be balanced and kept impartial by the technocratic aspects of the government.

One of the most important aspects of government should be a heavily funded and UNIVERSAL educational system. The goal of the system would be to train the children of the nation to become STEM majors, bureaucrats, teachers and soldiers (among others of course, but these four are of great importance) . The goal of the proper educational system is to be impartial to rank,stature and wealth and to fully train, academically enrich and mentally improve the student so that the parent government can prosper.

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In an ideal world, communism would thrive, Religion would love, and everyone would hold hands and sing Kumbaya. The biggest problem with your idea is your assumption that we can create a balanced and impartial system in the first place. Everyone has their bias and preferences. There is no such thing as impartiality with human nature. We tend to favour certain traits more than others. As shown in your arguments, we have different ideas of human nature and the practicality of ideals. Even when we value equality, that itself is a favoured trait. Any opinion or form we have is a bias, and bias tend to show favouritism and partiality.

even if you believe the system can't be perfect (it can) an attempt at this form of government is still better then a democracy, which is doomed to failure by its very nature.

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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] One of the biggest problems of meritocracy is that it inevitably leads to another autocracy where the children are given far more chances to succeed and prove their merits in comparison to a poor kid off the street. The problem isn't with the type of government or ideals, it's with human beings with selfish interests (aka every one of us). Rich3232

The thing is i don't support a pure meritocracy. Meritocracy is important but not the most important. In the system I support the meritocracy would be balanced and kept impartial by the technocratic aspects of the government.

One of the most important aspects of government should be a heavily funded and UNIVERSAL educational system. The goal of the system would be to train the children of the nation to become STEM majors, bureaucrats, teachers and soldiers (among others of course, but these four are of great importance) . The goal of the proper educational system is to be impartial to rank,stature and wealth and to fully train, academically enrich and mentally improve the student so that the parent government can prosper.

Too bad we live in reality.

I fail to see how that is a problem. If you are ok with the mediocrity of lesser governments thats your prerogative.

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]Authoritarian is too general a term if you want to talk about corruption. What will stop corruption is a hyper authoritarian technocratic meritocracy with heavy emphasis on the last two words. In that system corruption is eliminated and the public is kept educated, happy and useful by a supremely strong centralized government operated by a highly trained and educated bureaucracy. The idea of a limited government is idiotic and will only serve to limit mans potential until that limited government is either destroyed from within by the stupidity of the individual and the popular mob or by the strength of a less restricted foreign government.hiphops_savior
One of the biggest problems of meritocracy is that it inevitably leads to another autocracy where the children are given far more chances to succeed and prove their merits in comparison to a poor kid off the street. The problem isn't with the type of government or ideals, it's with human beings with selfish interests (aka every one of us).

The thing is i don't support a pure meritocracy. Meritocracy is important but not the most important. In the system I support the meritocracy would be balanced and kept impartial by the technocratic aspects of the government.

One of the most important aspects of government should be a heavily funded and UNIVERSAL educational system. The goal of the system would be to train the children of the nation to become STEM majors, bureaucrats, teachers and soldiers (among others of course, but these four are of great importance) . The goal of the proper educational system is to be impartial to rank,stature and wealth and to fully train, academically enrich and mentally improve the student so that the parent government can prosper.

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#10 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] The problem is democracy provides a placebo for the poor - they think their voice/vote is heard and that they're free. America needs to go back to its roots, the founding father's didn't like democracy and central banks for a reason Murica... Fightingfan

You should read platos "Republic", i think you'd like it.

What are you referring to? The whole Just vs Unjust thing?

No, it just seems that you have some idea of the failings of democracy and Plato can follow that idea to its logical conclusion.