[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

The father of the dead children.

hartsickdiscipl

I'm not saying that it's "right." I am saying that his actions do represent justice in it's simplest, most immediate form.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Depends how you question morality. Asking why beating someone in the head with a hammer is not ok because it's ok to beat a rock with a hammer is the wrong way to question morality.

InEMplease

Ah I never spoke of conflicting ideologies, or any kind of higher law. All I'm saying is there's an apporiate way to question such delicate matters. Comparing sentient beings to rocks is not one of them.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

or is it? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

InEMplease

Depends how you question morality. Asking why beating someone in the head with a hammer is not ok because it's ok to beat a rock with a hammer is the wrong way to question morality.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

He has stated multiple times that this was all theoretical.

mrbojangles25

or is it? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

He has stated multiple times that this was all theoretical.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] He killed the man's sons.....NEWMAHAY

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

well the only reason it matters is because you are also a human, and you would prefer not to be hurt, killed...ect. so what do you do? you find a bunch of other people and then you come to an agreement that should someone hurt or kill you, then rest of the group will promise to punish that person.

TheHighWind

How nice that you were talking about murder a second ago?

I swear OT creeps me out sometimes.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="kneeha"] I disagree people will follow their moral judgement even when it's inconvenient for them. For example today I didn't lie about my reason for avoiding a meeting when it would have been so easy, but my pesky morality got in the way(j/p I like my morality)kneeha

if you arent "moral" how can you expect others to be?

it's just a complex agreement created by society.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="kneeha"]

Follow my thinking please. A rock is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer, and bust up a rock, no one would call me evil. But, A human is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer and bust a human's head open people would call me evil.

Why is that? If naturalism is true then why is it wrong to kill people... with hammers. lol

The point of this post is to find out what people believe is a natural reason for morality, but focus on the scenario.

kneeha

well the only reason it matters is because you are also a human, and you would prefer not to be hurt, killed...ect. so what do you do? you find a bunch of other people and then you come to an agreement that should someone hurt or kill you, then rest of the group will promise to punish that person.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

morality is a made up concept created for our own convenience.

kneeha

if you arent "moral" how can you expect others to be?

it's just a complex agreement created by society.