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#1  Edited By gaeandilth
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@thegreatchomp said:

@gaeandilth: LOL. None of those were fake, and if you think systemic racism doesn’t exist, you are racist. Learn what it is, start there. Stop making up stuff, all you have. Remember, according to Trump Kamala isn’t an American.

@Watch_My_6: It wasn’t a crisis, so you fail. You also fail because you took her out of context.

Bring it up often? Good job admitting it. Personal attacks, I know who you are.

Show me any evidence anything there was real. One single thing. And Jessie Smollet and the Nascar noose and the Russia investigation are PROVEN, And systemic racism says that it is widespread and is increasing. It is not widespread and it has been decreasing for 50 years(since the democrats decided to drop their racist agenda). So someone here needs to learn what it is. I grew up in the 70s and 80s I know what racism looks like and have not seen much of it in years.

Giving you a rating of a 0 of 10 is not a personal attack but calling me a racist is maybe you should look up the definition of that one too.

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@LJS9502_basic:

"No centralized leadership is having the leader of the US stand up with a plan to fight the virus and not leave it to states to try to sort out which is like bailing out a boat with a hole in the bottom with a shot glass. Not going to work."

You mean like mobilizing the military and working with companies all over the US to make sure we did not run out of PPE and ventilators. Like building hospitals and sending TONS of aid to states like NY and CA even though those states been shitting on you for years? Or maybe you are referring to hiring teams of experts to advise and support you. Or mobilizing operation "warp" speed which looks to be the fastest vaccine delivery in the history of the world?

Stop hyperbole. No one is detaining or putting people in interment camps. That's insane. They ask those people TO STAY HOME unless they need hospitalized."

Saying that how far does it need to go? Democrats have done it before for a LOT less reason. I mean they call Trump racist for wanting border control. How about arresting and interning americans because of what country they were born in.

"trump is supposed to set the example for the country. And wearing a mask is about respecting those around you."

Is he 6 feet from you or anyone you care about? You do know the guidelines do not say wear a mask at all times? That you should wear a mask when you can not socially distance. Again the left practice fake concern about the virus to make a political statement.

"Stopping is attainable. See New Zealand for one such example. Curing and stopping are two different things. trump hasn't specifically hired those people by the way. He Pence in charge.....not a doctor. Those doctors have been working prior to trump FYI. And he's NOT listening to them at all."

You seen the news recently about NZ? How they got the virus and blaming it on frozen food(talk about not listening to experts). And he should not listen to them all. Do you blindly listen to what your doctor tells you? Do you not getting a second opinion or look up some facts yourself if something sounds off? Do you do what the doctor tells you even though it would cost you your job or keep your kids out of school? No you balance both sides and make a decision the best you can.

Viruses can change by mutation. When they do , a human body is sometimes unable to fight the new virus very well. This happens regularly with the influenza virus. A small change results in a small influenza epidemic, but a big change results in a pandemic that can kill millions of people worldwide. Many viruses mutate continuously so that the host's body has little chance of developing permanent resistance; others transfer between species, with the new host similarly unable to develop resistance.

This quote shows that we are at the mercy of the virus. Slowing it down might save live but it could be a mistake too. And stopping it is impossible it may go away it may not but we will have little to do with it. It would be easier to stop a hurricane. If this virus mutates next month and starts killing ALOT more people are the Democrats willing to take responsibility for that? Or they just going to blame Trump again?

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@LJS9502_basic: You know what central leadership you talk about in other countries is called? Socialist, Communism. And if red states are so poorly run why is it the democrats trying to bail out blue states with federal money?

The experts on the malaria medicine are bought and paid for democrats. Just as many experts say it DOES do something. And what the experts say about the dangers is misleading those dangers are only present when not used as directed. Or how do you explain 50 years using this malaria drug with no significant side effects? And that comment about disinfectant again. Trump never once suggested anyone drink disinfectant or shine light up their ass. He was told in a meeting how effective each was and asked a question about if something could be done with that inside the body not to mention this meeting was a bunch of people that had not got much sleep and were throwing out all kinds of suggestions.

What if he mandated that you must get detained and put in internment camps if you show symptoms? I mean how much of your freedom are you willing to lose to be safer? 800k people die a year from heart attacks what if he mandated you can not eat anything but heart healthy food? Do not know why I ask a democrat does not believe in freedom obviously.

Trump does not wear a mask because he is socially distanced. And the officials he does get close to just like him are tested every day. He has worn a mask when in proximity of untested people. Trump is far safer up there without his mask then you are with it.

And I said that Trump not mandating masks saves lives. Because if he did not a single democrat would of wore one. Because anything Trump does or supports they oppose and demonize. Trump could have a cure for cancer in his hand proven and the Democrats would find experts that said it did not work and was killing people. And what the Democrats are doing is having the same effect on some people(never claimed the Republicans are all smart) that are refusing to wear masks.

And just like I mentioned Obama hires a lawyer to head up his Virus response and Trump hires well respected EXPERTS and he is the one not listening to science? Also you do not just listen to science. Kind of like the green new deal. There is listening to science and there is overreacting and sacrificing too much for an unobtainable goal.(damn cow farts)

And stopping this virus is unattainable. And that is science there is not a single flu virus we have stopped. We have vaccines and treatments that have been developed for decades and there is still 60-80k people dying to the flu every year. It is containable but that became impossible once it left wuhan it was over. And the experts said this back in Feb/march and the democrats agreed with it.

Not to mention Trump did once suggest some action to contain the virus with federal intervention by quarantining NY, NJ and CT where the virus was getting out of control. And the Democrats are the ones that cried foul and talked about freedom and the constitution.

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@zaryia: btw what is mentioned there about the economy. Trump got screwed out of a great economy by the virus. And it is worth bragging about the recovery. I will say that Obama inherited a horrible economy that I will even admit was Bush's fault. But his recovery was slow as molasses this recovery is SKYROCKETING. It is proof on how much better Republican policies on taxs and regulations are then the Democrat's ideas.
But this article somehow twists it to sound like it is a bad thing. There has never been a bounce back this profound in such a short period of time in history. Article fails to mention how many jobs we already have back and how much of that contraction has recovered.

And to suggest that the Democrats would of done better on both the economy and the handling of the virus is a LIE. You had to balance the two there is no helping one without hurting the other. Obama talked about that MAGIC wand was needed to bring back manufacturing jobs(he got proved wrong big time). The Democrats really would need a magic wand to accomplish what they suggest they would of done about the crisis. And I still have yet to hear one of these magical solutions they had.

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#6 gaeandilth
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@zaryia said:

Trump's finger-pointing on USPS is latest attempt to rewrite history in real time

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/politics/trump-election-2020-usps-post-office/index.html

LOL wtf? He's blaming Dems...

Lol could you find a more biased opinion article? Want to see what Dems really think of the post office?

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2009/08/18/usps-goes-postal-on-obama-after-post-office-crack

I mean Trump suggests something it is wrong but Barrack Obama gets a pass? Trump brings us peace around the globe yet Obama got the Nobel peace prize 12 days after he was elected? Trump deals with the virus and hires experts and gets blamed for the whole thing. But Obama during a serious outbreak of Ebola hires a Political agent with a law degree and no experience in epidemiology but he did a fine job? Who btw as I have mentioned before is Biden's top virus advisor.

If the Post office was so bad in 2009 why did Obama not fix anything? Where is the blame on Obama for the post office not being prepared for this? Kind of like the PPE and ventilator problems we had at the start why does the left not acknowledge that it was Obama that was warned our preparedness was not sufficient for a Major pandemic and he did nothing? I will admit Trump inherited this problem and is also responsible for not fixing it.

So yeah I think him blaming the Dems is valid but he should also acknowledge that it is not just the Dems.

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@zaryia: The right was wrong? When has the right said do not wear a mask? Even Trump says wear a mask but he is not FORCING you too. He left it up to the states which is what a President is supposed to do. Not a single time has Trump suggested that you should not wear a mask.

And again we been in this discussion before. We are only even partially bad in Democrat run cities. We are 8th overall in deaths per capita. I am sure if you look up the deaths per capita in republican run states we are not even in the top 20 countries.

The virus is to blame here you can not monday morning quarterback and say what could of been. And everything Trump has done was advise and warn. He is not MANDATING anything. Which is how freedom works. Has been republicans that mandated and I think that is wrong too.

And Trump not pushing the mask wearing probably saved a lot of lives. Because if he would of pushed it and been really serious on wearing a mask the democrats would not of wore them out of spite. Because that is how they roll if Trump supports it they oppose it. They would of found some so-called expert to say that wearing a mask was dangerous and did not do anything.

If Trump endorses a treatment the Democrats immediately go see what they can find to twist it to sound like its bad. Like the malaria medicine. They even went as far to say it was dangerous and listed the side effects but conveniently left out that most of those side effects only happen if you use it improperly and the other side effects were milder then aspirin' side effects.

The passive aggressive, shaming, Irritating way Democrats deal with masks is why there are people that refuse to wear them. IF they would of shut the hell up and quit playing politics there would be a lot more people wearing masks on their own And maybe give people all the facts not just ones that further their agenda.

Because as I am trying to explain it is a whole bunch of guidelines that are MUCH more important then wearing a mask which the typical democrat ignores or does not even know about.

And btw the media is lying to you about the virus anyway. If you watch any news even FOX they talk like the entire country is locked down and everyone stuck in their house. That is just not true. Big cities sure but most other places barely even a difference. I have been from IL to florida twice since march. In march it was a pain no indoor dining most business closed and even my fishing spot got closed. In June however every single state on the way there IL,KY, GA(except atlanta), AL, FL not only had the majority of businesses open but had indoor dining and even BUFFETS.

But during that time period when we were locked down people were more at risk then now. Wal Mart for example closed all but 1 entrance to have someone watching to make sure everyone wore a mask(most took mask off once inside anyway). But endangered more people with this policy then not wearing a mask would of done by far. This is exactly backwards of what should of been done. This was not Trump this was that fake concern democrats do all the time.

Point is trust the people to do the right thing and you will be more successful then trying to force them. Vietnam went so bad because we pushed government power too far(and I do realize this was republicans) When we should of treated people like adults and let them choose. 100 soldiers willing to fight better then 1000 forced to(Russia should of learned that in WW2).

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#8 gaeandilth
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@horgen said:
@Watch_My_6 said:
@horgen said:
@Watch_My_6 said:

I know, I just wanted to hear you say it.

Why do you think FedEx and UPS will do it cheaper?

Edit: And I see you don't really want a discussion as you only responded with a single line, refuting nothing of what I said. Dishonest much?

I never claimed it would & it would be outlandish to say that anyone in this thread would be able calculate something like that.

All I wanted to do was address your original post: Imagine how much more expensive it will get with FedEx and UPS if USPS isn't their last mile delivery. You certainly allude to it being astronomical if USPS was gone.

Eliminating the government funded program would assuredly see the rise of more public businesses.

Instead of a separate agency, the government could broker a deal with any number of current or potential new customers.

Post offices, like they are in some places already, could be created for anyone in extreme rural peoples.

And most importantly, it's impossible for any of us to start any type of cost analysis. They are about to get $25 billion dollars in government money.

Look at it a little different. It is cheaper for UPS and Fedex to use USPS for last mile delivery than doing it themselves. That is quite telling. You alluded that both of them can do it cheaper. Then why use USPS?

Should people in rural areas pay the actual cost of getting mail delivered to them? At a price that will deliver a profit for the company doing?

Fun fact: Did you know USPSIS is the oldest/one of the oldest federal law enforcing agencies? Tracing all the way back to 1772 or so, preceding US itself.

Did not know that learn something every day. Knew the first postmaster general was Ben Franklin but not from school I don't think. Think I heard it on that kevin costner movie Postman. But I doubt it was called the USPSIS till after we declared our independence or the first hateful democrats(the british) would of arrested them for calling it US.

But rural areas do pay in a round about way. Democrats have enacted enough policy that even though the farmers have provided the cities with food the cities in turn have left them in poverty. If not for Reagan we would have no farmers today it would be ALL corporations farming(almost is now).

Some rural areas do not even get mail delivered. Town I went to HS in you still have to go down to the post office to pick up your mail. Is actually a lot of towns like that. So they do not get the same level of service should they pay less would be my question.

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#9 gaeandilth
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@zaryia: What is sad is Trump appointed that judge twice.

Here is the thing. Till we take money and politicians out of the voting process it is better to be prudent when it comes to voting. Hundreds of millions of dollars and hundreds of crooked politicians on both sides. To say it does not exist is more of a lie then anything Trump said.

The democrats were just short of an attempted Coup of the 2016 electoral college. Then the Russia investigating which everyone knows was another attempt by the democrats to deny the voters choice. Then the sham impeachment for their 3rd strike. I trust no politician and democrats i trust even less And only politician I trust even less then that is one from chicago from either party. So I would still rather it be more secure then more convenient.(even though it is not secure)

There are a lot of examples of general fraud in PA one was an actual judge of elections who just stood in a ballot box and voted over and over again. What is sad since he was a democratic politician surrounded by democrats that said nothing he was never caught till they realized more democrats voted then there were democratic voters. And he did that for a mere 2500 bucks.

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@horgen: absentee ballot you have to apply ahead of time and you will receive a ballot in the mail if you are eligible. Mail in voting is just sending ballots out to everyone. I would explain how unsecure that is but I do not want to give all these democrats any ideas. Not to mention even if we did use mail in ballot type voting system I think we need to look beyond the almost defunct post office and look into something else. I mean it is like trying to play the new CoD on an atari.