@horgen: States that practice Mail in Voting are states that are either far right or far left. Where the vote for president does not matter. Idaho, Hawaii, Washington, Colorado and Oregon are the ONLY states prior to covid to practice mail in voting for President. So there is no incentive to cheat in these states because they are already decided.

All the other voting is either done by ballot or absentee voting. And the numbers are low because we do not have mail in voting in states that actually matter.

And Trump does not vote by mail. He votes by absentee voting. Which we have had for years and is actually a chore to do.

And I would have to disagree the entire Democrat party practiced voter fraud they day they instituted their super delegate system. It is not even a crime against republicans it is a crime against the Democrat voter that takes power out of their hands and puts it into the politicians.

If it is done fairly and securely I myself am all for mail in voting. I mean during covid there going to be a good reason for Trump voters not to go to the ballot box. Because majority of trump voters are mature older Americans. Then you got farmers and rural communities that do not vote because it is a pain in the butt(I used to be in the same situation).

@LJS9502_basic: You mean that is what the left wants you to believe. Are you saying John McCain was a racist then? Shows you the true nature of the left. He was a racist Up till the day McCain Voted down the repeal of Obamacare. After that he was an american hero and a great man how dare you criticize him.

Has not been a Republican Candidate for President in 20 years that was not called a racist. John McCain was actually called a racist by the left wing media up till election day in 2008. Was because in a Tweet Mccain compared the Iranian President to a monkey.

I know facts suck for you. But I still point them out.

You see Moderators this is what an actual troll looks like. 1 line snide comment meant to invoke an argument.

Some people are not wearing a mask out of pure protest. Because the shut downs the requiring masks and all that is just a taste of how out of control government power has become. If this Virus was much worse next we would have intern camps for the sick and mass burning of corpses like out of some disaster movie. I go fishing i do not wear a mask. I am not going within 6 feet of anyone anyway. But what is funny it is always the people wearing masks that walk up within 6 feet of me. Or you ever see a big family walking into the store(guidelines say to shop solo) all wearing masks. They ignore the guidelines more then the people not wearing masks do.

This ignoring of guidelines is the real problem. Only need to wear a mask if you HAVE to break the other guidelines like social distancing. People acting like a mask is a hazmat suit. You wearing a mask in Wal Mart and bring your entire family or even just your wife/husband or touch everything in the store you are the problem. Have seen 80+ year old couples in a buffet wearing a mask and gloves. Think that is a good idea? But they are 80 i do not tell them they should not go to a buffet at all because it is THEIR life to live and they have lived long enough to deserve that right.

Back in the early days of this virus experts and politicians both said we are never going to stop this virus in time. All we can do is slow it down. We accomplished that. And just like predicted it is tearing through the population there is no stopping it. I mean look at the flu we have studied it and vaccinated for it. And it is still out there we have never beaten it. Most die out eventually because it is easier to get herd immunity when the virus is not as contagious as covid.

Whether or not you agree with mail in voting. No matter what party you are in. Whether or not you hate Trump or not. You can not with a straight face say the Democrats push for mail in voting is out of concern of Covid. If they cared there would not have been 1000s in the streets ignoring social distancing(and masks in a lot of cases) and they allow it.

It is political to not want it too. But at least there is some sense to be made out of the rights position. FIrst of all we are not prepared to switch to mass mail in voting. States that have done it did a lot to get it set up. Not to mention how it is currently proposed it is very vulnerable to corruptions. And we already know foreign governments attempt to interfere. And we KNOW Democrats attempt to interfere and crossfire hurricane is the proof of that.

So why would anyone want an unsecure voting process instated when there is clearly a lot of people wanting to subvert it? And do not give me the "we already have mail in voting". No we do not we have absentee voting which is harder to do and has been used for a long time and is a lot more secure then mass mail in voting.

But I do not think democrats thinking this through. If covid going to keep any demographic out of the voting booths it will be the elderly. And lets face it i have not seen a poll but everyone knows that most of the democrats base are under 40. And most of Trumps are 40+. Which btw shows the bias there is in our education system and social media(media too but young people do not watch that in most cases).

Oh And I used to live in Kansas you know how many farmers have never voted because it requires going to town? Bet the Democrats all for sending them a ballot too right?

@zaryia: Most people think that because 99 percent of the media is biased and some even are frauds. Difference between right wing and left wing is that when you watch Fox News you know it is biased if you are watching Hannity or Tucker. But they tell you they are biased and they are not journalists they are talk show hosts. CNN and MSNBC every single one of them claim they are journalists and have no bias at all.

A lot of the blame to either side is unwarranted. These people are not gods they can only hope to mitigate against this virus there is no stopping it. Even the vaccine is unlikely to be perfect. I mean people still dying from the old flu virus' even though they are vaccinated from it.

And the hate against Trump is totally unwarranted. I mean he is crude and insensitive sometimes. But as far as politicians go he his honest. You do not see him screwing with national security for his own self interests like the Bush's did over oil. You do not see him doing all kinds of crooked things and sleeping with interns and lying to congress like the Clinton's. You do not see him bending over and taking it in the butt on foreign policy, Spying on political opponents and doing things like hiring a lawyer to oversee a serious health risk(ebola) like Obama. Not to mention we know Obama is corrupt for one simple fact....there is not a single politician that comes out of Chicago that is not corrupt Democrat or Republican.

Not to mention it is pretty cowardly and disingenuous to blame someone after the fact without ever saying a thing when it would of actually mattered. All I hear is this expert said this and this expert said that. But if those experts were always correct like people portray they would be President. A President would listen to all the experts from many different fields and make a decision. You going to find in any situation experts that disagree on ANYTHING. But the media says "all experts agree".

In reality most people if you ask why they hate trump they say "he is a liar" but they really hate him because he is does not lie enough. A normal politician gives us this fake view of them we do not see the person. Trump is an open book. I mean we all do this to some degree but politicians make a career out of it. I mean here is an example. Go watch a video of Hillary Clinton as the first lady of Arkansas notice that deep southern accent? Go watch a video of Hillary Clinton as a senator of NY. Where did that accent go? Which is kind of funny considering she was born and raised in Chicago(see above reference to Chicago politicians)

The one thing I do not agree with is how Trump does not take some responsibility for any mistakes made. As the president even if Andrew Cuomo killed a bunch of old people by putting covid positive people in nursing homes Trump has some responsibility either he did not know it was happening or he did nothing to try to put a stop to it either way he is sort of responsible just because he IS the President.

And Biden DID screw up. You know how? He did NOTHING. Did he have an idea? Nope. If you think he did have a valid idea did he use his considerable political power to do anything about it? Did he even hire a competent Epidemiologist for council? Think I posted earlier he hired the same Lawyer/political agent Obama did for the Ebola outbreak(Ron Klain) to be his Virus advisor.

Making a mistake or two is a whole lot better then not even trying.

@zaryia: Fact is we were going to get the virus there was no way around it. Once it got out of china it was over. Remember when the goal was just to slow it down and keep it from overrunning our healthcare system? We achieved that. In fact Andrew Cuomo himself said that EXACT same thing back in feb.

Both sides are wrong if you ask me. We should not of shut down we should of put those at risk inside and ripped the bandaid off. We would of pretty much had the same numbers maybe even less death by doing that. Would of just not took as long to get to those numbers. But the reason we should of is because the virus is bad but it is not HORRIBLE. Longer it stays out in force the more chance it has to mutate and become worse,

Not to mention as many as it kills it is still not a huge number. 800k+ die every year from heart disease in the US for example. How many more we losing a year due to being inactive at home? I mean most of the deaths are to 70+ elderly how many of them are going to die earlier because they are not getting out and being active? How many dying out of frustration or crime that is caused from more being home(Idle hands are the devil's workshop). Why are the so-called experts not taking these things into account?

@zaryia: partially yes. But not as an intentional act like the Democrats. You keep using this "most Americans" you getting that from one of those legit CNN polls? Or just guessing. You have used Most americans quite a few times. How about in November you come back and tell me how Most Americans think again?

@zaryia: I posted EXACTLY what they said did not have little short tag lines picked out for effect.

I will pick a few and explain.

Biden, Jan. 27: Biden publishes an op-ed in USA Today hitting Trump for “shortsighted policies" that "have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic,"

Forgot to mention we was unprepared because the Obama admin. Left it unprepared and was reported many times since 2014 that we need it fixed.

Trump, Feb. 2: Trump goes on Sean Hannity’s show and claims: “We pretty much shut it down, coming in from China.” Trump extols our “tremendous relationship” with China, and adds: “We did shut it down, yes.”

Here we use two totally unrelated quotes and put them together to make something out of nothing

Oh and lets not forget who Bidens virus advisor is. He was an appointee that Obama appointed to head up the ebola crisis. Who was actually lawyer and political agent with 0 experience with infectious diseases.

You can keep posting all the lies and misdirection you want still is not true. Trump make mistakes? Yep. Would the Dems of done better? HELL NO.