I wonder if they did this to get people to buy it. I almost bought the game without realizing because it had the ps+ exclusive. I

Where do you find the free drive club demo for ps+. All I can find are the full game for $59 and ps+ $49 edition.

@marcheegsr: i decided to get ps+ back in April, in June they changed how it works. It seems all I've got are a bunch of indie games on the ps4, and not much better on the ps3 ether. I'm not complaining about free games. last year it seemed ps+ was getting all these AAA games, since I decided to go plus I've been like meh towards the games.

I was never excited for it, they never showed much besides trust us this game is cool before the beta. I got the game because, you just had too. I played for about a week and got bored, haven't touched it since. I dont get how people can put hours n hours doing the same boring thing over n over.

@adders99: I have both a ps4 and xbox one, without a doubt it takes far longer to install and play a game on the xbox one then ps4. I believe they both have a blu ray read speed of 6x. The difference is how the games are coded, they both have a install a portion of the game then you can play as the game finishes installing.

I find the ps4 to be far quicker from inserting a new game to playing. I've had some games take almost a hour to install on the X1. It seems this feature is far better utilize on the ps4. You would think blu ray has been out for some time now, they would have drives far faster then 6x at reasonable prices. I suppose these systems weren't design with running games directly off disc so they didn't care to include faster bd drives. It's insane, makes me think of my old PC days when I had to install 4 cd roms a hour in to play a game. Now days you can buy a game day one, have to wait a hour to install the game. Once you install the game you find out there's a 4gig dayone patch to download to before you can play the game. There have been more then a few times I wanted to play a quick game only to find out there was some multi gig patch I had to download before I could play, effectively killing my urge to get a quick game play session in "cod ghost, bf4, KI, DR3" to name a few. My long ramble and rant.

You can solve all these update issues in the power savings settings, your xbox will download updates in the background while it's off. But it also hogs you data and bandwidth so I keep those setting off.

If you're having problems call Microsoft and they will replace your xbox. To be honest once you install the game the bluray drive isn't used but to check if you have the game in the drive. X1 isn't designed to run games off the disk directly. Their whole plan was to install the game and never need the disk again, but the whole 24/7 Internet fiasco killed that and they backed tracked on that.

If you owe him $400 and have been avoiding paying him back, then don't tell him and be a better friend and pay your debts. If not, who cares its your money spend it how you see fit.

This really should say how old are you. My 12 year old son looks at the ps2 like it's some ancient dinosaur. I've had all the playstations 1-4 psp and vita.

They will charge you when ever your gold subscription runs out. If you just added a 12 month card you have until that runs out before they will auto renew on your account. I had to call mircosoft to get my credit card info off my account. My son who was 8 at the time was buying games and avatar items on my 360. I thought I had removed this info off my xbox, but they make it difficult to get your info off the consoled.

This was years ago maybe they fixed it and made it easier to deal with. With a phone call to ms they took my credit card info off my account and gave my a year of gold for free. Ive had live since 2002 and they auto renewed my live for 10 years. Now I still have live but i use prepaid cards, it the best way to pay only what you want.

The demo did what it was suppose to do, get everyone as a community talking trying to figure it out. From that standpoint i actually enjoyed playing, getting stuck and watched live streams to figure things out. Form there still being confused as to the logic of the game.

I agree with a what the hell approach to gameplay and logic to puzzles. I love the game for the completely different experience I had while trying to figure out how to beat it.