[QUOTE="gamesrdead4200"]

[QUOTE="Sands-0f-Time"]console graphic king confirmed.....all the haters bow down. this will be GOTY. best game ever madekillab2oo5

lol crysis warhead pwns that crap

*picture*

LOL those look crap

Here's 1280x1024 x8 anti aliasing x16 anisotropic filtering all max

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Once a person picks up a controller and plays a game, guess what, that by definition makes them a gamer. What hardcore games did Nintendo make for the GameCube?dotWithShoes

There's a difference between playing games and being a gamer. A person who runs around the block doesn't make them a track and field runner, see what I mean?

A casual gamer is the people saying it's impossible/hard to aim with a controller in a first person shooter with no aim assist.

Quake 2's level design was amazing for it's time, it's a shame we have no shooters today with amazing level design for their time period either.

False quake 2 had a jetpack in some multiplayer levels overall best fps ever.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Sony isn't sad at all. Once they said "$599" they knew the casuals would leave. They dont care (Sony cares more about how many Blu-ray players are in homes). Plus, Nintendo has a different set of casual gamers - non-gamers. Nintendo doesn't care about hardcore gamers because they have shown this many times. First off they make the Wii super weak, they aren't coming out with many "core" titles (like they did with the GameCube), and then the fact is their marketing is clearly aimed at non-gamers. They don't care about hardcore gamers because they do not need to. They will give the Nintendo fans their Zelda, Mario, and all that jazz but that's it.

AHUGECAT

There's a difference between playing games and being a gamer. A person who runs around the block doesn't make them a track and field runner, see what I mean?

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[QUOTE="gamesrdead4200"]

LOL anytime a developer says we wanted our game to be easy to get into pick up and play then that means the game is a crappy noob game and i shouldnt waste my time.

dotWithShoes

lol, before i was playing doom/quake/unreal/duke nukem/rise of the triad aka first person shooters hit the market

i was playing games like contra,double dragon,ninja turtles,mario,sonic,,ghouls and ghost all the legendary,pitfall platformer/beat em ups/racers/fighters.

[QUOTE="gamesrdead4200"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Once a person picks up a controller and plays a game, guess what, that by definition makes them a gamer. What hardcore games did Nintendo make for the GameCube?dotWithShoes

nope a gamer spends time playing the game to find the ins and outs of it.

we agree to disagree

games today=shallow no real depth to them, games that dont have anything to gain from experience are crappy freaking games.

LOL anytime a developer says we wanted our game to be easy to get into pick up and play then that means the game is a crappy noob game and i shouldnt waste my time.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Sony is very sad that their lover has left them for Nintendo. Casual gamers supported Sony hardcore last two gens. But then again, they supported Nintendo the previous gens. iI believe however, that Nintendo tar]gets all gamers.. just doesn't focus mainly on the elitists who label themselves in the gaming community. What makes you think Nintendo doesn't care about hardcore gamers?dotWithShoes

Sony isn't sad at all. Once they said "$599" they knew the casuals would leave. They dont care (Sony cares more about how many Blu-ray players are in homes). Plus, Nintendo has a different set of casual gamers - non-gamers. Nintendo doesn't care about hardcore gamers because they have shown this many times. First off they make the Wii super weak, they aren't coming out with many "core" titles (like they did with the GameCube), and then the fact is their marketing is clearly aimed at non-gamers. They don't care about hardcore gamers because they do not need to. They will give the Nintendo fans their Zelda, Mario, and all that jazz but that's it.

nope a gamer spends time playing the game to find the ins and outs of it.