The problem is that here in my country, a 2080ti costs 5 times what a ps4 pro costs...

Very relevant to me.

I have been gaming for 29 years and I only play single player games.

Always have been. That is what I love. The stories, the virtual worlds, the adventures....

Multi-player has absolutely no interest to me whatsoever.

I don't like it, and I don't wnat to deal with other people.

Hello, how are you?

If I buy a physical game on my country, play it, then sell it and later on purchase the digital version of the game on my country psn store, will the save game of the physical version work on the digital one?

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Spiderman is a system seller.

A true AAA game in production value, scope, budget and all that.

It is made to appeal to as broader audience as possible.

Two point hospital is a niche game. Total different audience. Cannot be compared.

Hi,

Curious about this and what kind of sinlge player games seem to have replay value.

In my case, I recently did a second playtrough of Mad Max, since on my first one a couple of years ago I did mostly story missions and beat the game.

Now I did a second one, taking my time, maxing out the Magnus opus and all that good stuff.

Another one I did two playtroughs was Tomb Raider 2013 back in the day.

How about you?

Cheers!

2018 and the future is bad for pc gaming because of several factors.

Games are not those factors.

Market trends and other conditions are:

- Memory Prices. Manufacturers doing price fixing, not increasing production to keep prices high.

- Security flaws in cpus. One after the other. Patches that hurt performance. Intel not wanting performance reviews on patches and so on

- Artificial shortage of products. Like the recent 14nm intel CPUs. All of the sudden an i5 8400 is nowhere in stock, an i3 8100 costs up of 150 euros!

- GPU pricing is totally insane! Top end cards over 1200 euros and midrange 2070 cards at almost 600 euros!

With all that, who would want to build a gaming PC now?

Come on you guys...

That's not true and if you are pc gamers you know it's not...

The ps4 came out in 2013 for 400 euros.

Then the ps4 pro came out in 2017 for another 400 euros.

If you bought both, that's 800 euros.

If the ps5 comes out in 2020, that's 800 euros in hardware in 8 years.

If you started form scratch on a pc build and had 800 euros to spend in 8 years do you think you would be gaming the top aaa games from those 8 years with only that fixed budget?

Let's see today.

An i3 8300 that is a low end pc cpu, plus a low end b360 board, ram, a case and psu is 450 euros here.

And then you need a controller. An Xbox one controller is another 50. Add even just an hdd and another 50.

So you are 550 and don't have a gpu yet.

So that leaves 250 euros for a gpu.

250 can get you either a rx580 4gb or a 1060 3gb...

And there goes 800 euros.

How do you think a system with an i3 and a 1060 can last 8 years? No way. I know it and you know it.

Pc gaming is better, but is is also very muck more expensive than ps4 gaming.

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@Chris_53: hello, thanks for your reply.

In regard to headphones, I would prefer wireless due to the flexibility to use them to also listen to YouTube on the couch and such.

What are your recommendations?

Cheers

@dzimm: pc hardware for gaming is a hobby within gaming itself.

But the problem is that currently it is a stupidly expensive hobby for what you get in return.

Let me elaborate. When I game on pc, I don't just boot up the game and play...

I boot up the game after booting up afterburner and Riva tuner.

Then I go to settings, set up the game, play a few minutes, while looking at the graphics for framerate and frame times.

Then, because I cannot get the 60fps lock I start to tone down settings.

Change configs, play while watching graphs...

Do it again.

Then I am happy.

But then I think.

What if instead of dropping settings to keep the resolution at native 4k, I max out the settings and drop the resolution using the scaler on the gpu to play at 1800p or 1620p instead?

Gopd idea. I try that. Whatch the fps numbers.

Then, because I am changing the resolution, I go back and forth between the native 4k and the 1800p putting my eyes next to the screen to pixel peep if I can see the differences...

And in the whole time, I didn't play a single game...

Then the rtx 2080ti gets announced and it is the solution to get maxed out 60fps at 4k.

But my current fig with the 1080ti already cost 1600 euros...

When I sell my 1080ti to get the 2080ti, the upgrade will cost 500 euros minimum...

So the gaming rig will then have cost over 2100 euros...

In under a year...

But since you are never happy with your rig, when you'll want to change your case to better cool that 2080ti, the cost will add up...

And when new cpus come along... More upgrades...

Always doing the math on how much upgrades will cost, always looking at benchmarks...

And always spending money.

Meanwhile with a Ps4 pro, you just spend 330 euros and just play games for how long the generation lasts...

@dzimm: that is precisely my point.

For casual gamers, there is no rationality in pc gaming at the moment.

Ram prices are still absurd. Like 16gb of ddr4 at good speed is still around 200 euros!

Cpus are going to rise in price according to leaks with Intel 9th gen costing up to 450 or 550 euros.

GPU prices are insane! Mid range cards over 550 euros!

If you are not a professional that uses the computer processing power and rendering power to do work and as such, make money, spending all that money to play games in your free time, when you are not taking care of your house, or family or working, is just plain crazy when a console costs 330 euros and comes with everything you need to plug in and enjoy games.